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View Poll Results: Would you consider Houston a progressive city?
Yes 22 32.35%
No 37 54.41%
undecided 9 13.24%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-13-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Houston has a few holes to fill before it starts bragging to the world that it's a cutting edge city when it comes to social and political invention and progress.
Oh yes political invention and "progress" of cities like L.A. where the middle class does everything possible to send their kids elsewhere to school than LAUSD. "Progressive" like Chicago dragging the whole state down with scary fiscal mismanagement and malfeasance plus murder. "Progressive" like Baltimore getting ready to suck millions of dollars from the state to tear itself down, see below. You guys got no answer to why it's all blowing up in your face, unfortunately the faces of the kids too. Oh and BTW Pine you never answered how many cities in the USA have the same ordinance that we in Houston just voted down. Someone posted a wikipedia article saying 185 "cities and counties" have something not necessarily like what got voted down which does not exactly answer the question.

So here is the best I can come up with since you are not interested. from the wikipedia statement, LESS than 185 cities with their ordinance of some type.

The cities that have no such ordnance number around 30,000, OK? So you should be going all over C-D to these boards with your campaign of intellectual superiority.

So here is the latest from the great progressive city of Baltimore: Can We Fix American Cities by Tearing Them Down? - Bloomberg Business

Oh and the "progressive" Chicago teachers at the scary public schools have a lesson for the kids coming up this spring concerning 'progressive' politics: http://townhall.com/columnists/timbe...crity-n2103607

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Old 01-13-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Oh yes political invention and "progress" of cities like L.A. where the middle class does everything possible to send their kids elsewhere to school than LAUSD. "Progressive" like Chicago dragging the whole state down with scary fiscal mismanagement and malfeasance plus murder. "Progressive" like Baltimore getting ready to suck millions of dollars from the state to tear itself down, see below. You guys got no answer to why it's all blowing up in your face. Oh and BTW Pine you never answered how many cities in the USA have the same ordinance that we in Houston just voted down. Someone posted a wikipedia article saying 185 "cities and counties" have something not necessarily like what got voted down which does not exactly answer the question.

So here is the best I can come up with since you are not interested. from the wikipedia statement, LESS than 185 cities with their ordinance of some type.

The cities that have no such ordnance number around 30,000, OK? So you should be going all over C-D to these boards with your campaign of intellectual superiority.

So here is the latest from the great progressive city of Baltimore: Can We Fix American Cities by Tearing Them Down? - Bloomberg Business

Oh and the "progressive" Chicago teachers at the scary public schools have a lesson for the kids coming up this spring concerning 'progressive' politics: Thanks to Teacher
Who claimed that Chicago or Baltimore (or LA) are progressive cities? They would never have made my list.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Sorry, but if Houston was afraid of "them gays" she would not have been elected even though she were a Democratic candidate.

It was cited by at least one person here that HERO's defeat was an illustration that Houston was not "progressive" because it didn't support LGBT rights. I'm just explaining that it was the bathroom aspect of HERO that sunk it, not the LGBT aspects.
It wasnt the bathroom aspect, it was that people believed the bathroom aspect.

Go ask the people in Dallas or Austin or El Paso if all the sex deviants rushed the bathrooms once it was ok for Trans people to go to the bathroom they identified with.

Houston has no protections for LGBT people at all right now. Plano is a more gay friend city than Houston currently. We need to get our act together.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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There are varying degrees of progressiveness

^^^ This. But your poll has only black and white options... so I didn't vote.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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It wasnt the bathroom aspect, it was that people believed the bathroom aspect.

Go ask the people in Dallas or Austin or El Paso if all the sex deviants rushed the bathrooms once it was ok for Trans people to go to the bathroom they identified with.

Houston has no protections for LGBT people at all right now. Plano is a more gay friend city than Houston currently. We need to get our act together.
The bathroom aspect was why the citizens of Houston voted it down. Period.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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The bathroom aspect was why the citizens of Houston voted it down. Period.
That may be why, but the fact that they bought into the fear explains it.

Why didnt that stop other cities from passing similar ordinances?
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Who claimed that Chicago or Baltimore (or LA) are progressive cities? They would never have made my list.
OK then is NYC on your list? I mean we are talking Democrat cities in democrat run states, and I thought the mantle of "progressive" is what the party faithful are all about. Guess Baltimore is conservative if you say so. Here are the progressive residents up in NYC, uh changing their mind about "diversity" when it suits them:

Brooklyn Public School Battle: Progressives Are Opposing Integration | National Review Online

I really hope all you guys read it, quite entertaining to read about "progressives" squirming when forced to live their religion.

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Old 01-13-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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That may be why, but the fact that they bought into the fear explains it.
I'd be curious if you support the "fear" of most schools that have rules in place for not allowing adults into the student restrooms.

What you label as "fear", most other people see as logical caution.

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Why didnt that stop other cities from passing similar ordinances?
I have no idea. It might have been a situation where their city councils put it in and nobody paid attention. It might have been that nobody noticed the possible ramifications.

It really doesn't matter why it wasn't an issue in other cities. In Houston, most voters didn't want HERO because the end result would be allowing men into women's restrooms, and they voted to reject it.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I have no idea. It might have been a situation where their city councils put it in and nobody paid attention. It might have been that nobody noticed the possible ramifications.
Thats virtually impossible in this day and age.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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That may be why, but the fact that they bought into the fear explains it.

Why didnt that stop other cities from passing similar ordinances?
Because of the timing.

We're in a time now where Transgenders/transsexua isa hot topic and lots of controversy around it. Bruce winning woman of the year and more.

The bathroom fear is real and I don't agree with transwomen using the girl's restroom.
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