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Old 07-25-2016, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Houston/Brenham
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Found this snake curled inside a planter on our front porch at our ranch tonight. Copperhead?


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Old 07-25-2016, 10:39 PM
 
Location: League City
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I think it's a Texas Rat Snake. Hard to explain, but Copperhead patterns are different with less black.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Houston/Brenham
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I think it's a Texas Rat Snake. Hard to explain, but Copperhead patterns are different with less black.
Thanks. I'm having a tough time telling the two apart at night.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:47 PM
 
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Did some more image compares, and I think you're right. Markings are more Rat Snake, and not so much Copperhead.

Thanks again.
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Old 07-25-2016, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Plus the shape of the head is a good indicator.

Venomous snakes, like copperheads, typically have triangular heads, while non-venomous have the smoother shape this one has.
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Old 07-26-2016, 12:12 AM
 
Location: League City, Texas
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Plus the shape of the head is a good indicator.

Venomous snakes, like copperheads, typically have triangular heads, while non-venomous have the smoother shape this one has.
Not necessarily true.

The snake in question is a non-venomous Western Rat Snake (Pantherophis obsoletus), formerly called a Texas Rat Snake. He won't hurt you. I'd rather have one of these guys instead of a rat!

Last edited by hellpaso; 07-26-2016 at 12:13 AM.. Reason: They also eat eggs, so if you have chickens, watch out!
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Houston/Brenham
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Plus the shape of the head is a good indicator.

Venomous snakes, like copperheads, typically have triangular heads, while non-venomous have the smoother shape this one has.
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Not necessarily true.

The snake in question is a non-venomous Western Rat Snake (Pantherophis obsoletus), formerly called a Texas Rat Snake. He won't hurt you. I'd rather have one of these guys instead of a rat!
Thank you both. He's still coiled up this morning, I guess he's waiting for a meal to walk by.

I didn't want to kill it if it wasn't a Copperhead.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Houston/Brenham
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PS: No chickens! Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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Copperheads are generally very easy to distinguish, they're gorgeous snakes but I hate them with a white hot passion.

Most of the copperheads in our area will lack the red tint and look more like this.





They'll have a diamond shaped head.



They also put off a pretty distinct smell but by the time you're close enough to smell it you're probably in trouble anyway.
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Old 07-26-2016, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Houston/Brenham
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Thanks, good info, especially on the head shape. I get confused because they both appear to have similar markings, although when you know them better, they really are quite distinctive.
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