If there was ever any doubt how much Houston depends on oil... (Dallas: 2015, transfer)

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

The job numbers came out. They aren't pretty.


Between June 2015 and 2016, this was the job growth by metro area:


Los Angeles +221,300
New York+217,100
San Francisco +133,900
Washington DC +120,100
Dallas +114,500
Philadelphia +78,700
Atlanta +76,200
Seattle +73,400
Miami +70,000
Phoenix +67,300
Boston +64,500
Orlando +60,900
Chicago +60,800
Denver +53,700
Detroit + 42,000
Portland +38,400
San Diego +37,600
Cleveland +22,600
Houston +5,200


Table 3. Employees on nonfarm payrolls by state and metropolitan area


Granted we did not lose jobs, but the implications are all too clear. What can the city do to diversify at a faster rate? Tax incentives for non-energy related companies perhaps?

[radiolibre99]

Yikes! First batch of bad news for the lone star state! I'm sure the city and state will rectify this as they'd want to continue the miracle they were always boasting about. Granted Texas is still doing fairly well but Houston is just stuck in a rut

[westhou]

What about San Antonio?

Shocking that Dallas added 114,500 jobs and San Antonio didn't add any significant jobs.

Nice to see Detroit add jobs. Would like to see New Orleans add some.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

The job numbers came out. They aren't pretty.

Granted we did not lose jobs, but the implications are all too clear. What can the city do to diversify at a faster rate? Tax incentives for non-energy related companies perhaps?

What kind of jobs are these that are being created ? Are wages growing ? Are imports up ? Is the GMP in MSA's that created jobs growing ? Has population growth in the MSA's that aren't reporting significant job growth stagnant ?

Considering all the job loses in the mining sector a significant number of non O&G jobs had to be created for Houston to break even. You also have to consider that these "reports" are actually the results of surveys and not actual job counts.

[radiolibre99]

I'm curious about SA and Austin not adding jobs too. Strange. Seems Dallas is the only city in Texas adding jobs?

[DejaBlue]

Are these actual degreed jobs or public sector "fast food/retain type" of jobs.

When lawmakers boats "created jobs" yeah I know....I see the franchise chains popping up. That's not "added jobs" people want moving to a city for a job opportunity.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by radiolibre99

I'm curious about SA and Austin not adding jobs too. Strange. Seems Dallas is the only city in Texas adding jobs?

This is only a list of metropolitan areas greater than 3 million.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by Jack Lance

What kind of jobs are these that are being created ? Are wages growing ? Are imports up ? Is the GMP in MSA's that created jobs growing ? Has population growth in the MSA's that aren't reporting significant job growth stagnant ?

Considering all the job loses in the mining sector a significant number of non O&G jobs had to be created for Houston to break even. You also have to consider that these "reports" are actually the results of surveys and not actual job counts.

You can't pole vault around this one (which is exactly what you're doing).

You're trying to give Houston every benefit of a doubt in the book while forgetting you would have to do the same for everybody else.

The source is the department of labor. It doesn't get any more official than that.

Instead of trying to deny the obvious, how about brainstorming ideas on how to make it better?

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by peterlemonjello

You can't pole vault around this one (which is exactly what you're doing).

You're trying to give Houston every benefit of a doubt in the book while forgetting you would have to do the same for everybody else.

The source is the department of labor. It doesn't get any more official than that.

Instead of trying to deny the obvious, how about brainstorming ideas on how to make it better?

One thing we do know is that Houston is still gaining population at a similar rate it has over the past few years. We know this by the number of new utility connections reported by CenterPoint in its last quarterly report. So there has been a great deal of diversification but more is needed.


//www.city-data.com/forum/houst...esilience.html


I (we) have brainstormed ideas on this forum over the past year. 1) We need to pass a HERO like ordinance so that Houston can compete with cities like Austin, Dallas and Plano, which have those types of ordinances, for Tech transfers and new start ups in that sector. I think you remember my unambiguous support for that referendum. 2) Maybe you remember my unambiguous support for the UT expansion into Houston and their plans for a "intellectual" hub in Southwest Houston, not far from where you live if I'm not mistaken. Houston can do many things to help itself, however I think that help from the state not only makes sense for Houston but for the state as a whole.

I don't think offering tax breaks for one industry or group of industries and not all is a good idea. Amazon did get a tax abatement for their new facility in north Houston but so did Exxon/Mobile and that's the way it should be.

[979Texan]

Will these job numbers keep all away all the morons who want to move here?