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Old 02-20-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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I am not making the case for the OP to go anywhere. If OP wants a real metro area, NYC is much closer. Otherwise, a small town to him might be Houston. As I stated, it's relative.



Why do anything in life? Experience. Lubbock is an experience. Austin is an experience. College Station is an experience. Houston is a very different experience. By your logic, why do anything? You're just going to die anyway. These are not pitstops. You make it sound like being a teenager is a pitstop to adulthood.



I cannot speak to Oxford, but I have spent considerable time at Rice. The system may be traditional, but the lifestyle there is anything but. I can tell that you know nothing about it, other than what you have read in those US News Rankings you hate so much.
I'm not denying that the traditional experience isn't good but just overrated and not needed as much in today's world. It lives on in older parents out in the exurbs who tell their gunner kids to abide by the US News. It's just tradition. And yes those are all experiences you listed. Going to Sam in Huntsville is an experience, but an experience one can skip out on for something better. I'm comparing experiences if you didn't notice. No matter how you slice it Houston is still the 4th largest city and growing, that's not something to gloss over by getting relative on the matter. As far as Texas goes, it is NYC, Lubbock isn't even Tulsa,OK if you want to say it's all relative.

I have family that went to Rice and I spent a lot of time there. I know it pretty well and I wasn't comparing its student life to getting blitzed and passing out on a field but overall quality of life which it's always praised for. Plus you have the entire city at your fingertips. How are you going to even compare? No nightlife, networking or extracurriculars in Houston? Cmon this isn't a debate.

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Old 02-20-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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I'm not denying that the traditional experience isn't good but just overrated and not needed as much in today's world. It lives on in older parents out in the exurbs who tell their gunner kids to abide by the US News. It's just tradition. And yes those are all experiences you listed. Going to Sam in Huntsville is an experience, but an experience one can skip out on for something better. I'm comparing experiences if you didn't notice. No matter how you slice it Houston is still the 4th largest city and growing, that's not something to gloss over by getting relative on the matter. As far as Texas goes, it is NYC, Lubbock isn't even Tulsa,OK if you want to say it's all relative.

I have family that went to Rice and I spent a lot of time there. I know it pretty well and I wasn't comparing its student life to the raucous of getting blitzed in field but overall quality of life which it's always praised for. Plus you have the entire city at your fingertips. How are you going to even compare? No nightlife, networking or extracurriculars in Houston? Cmon this isn't a debate.
Your line of reasoning is quite bad. Sure, let's skip Lubbock cause Houston is better? Why do Houston, then? LA, NYC are better. London is better. Paris is Better. Tokyo is Better...Or not. Omaha is pretty good for business. Bentonvile is big business as well. Silicon Valley is not as big as Houston. Is Houston still "better?"

I'm not sure what direction you are going in re: Rice. Their students know how to have a good time just as well as any other college campus. I only mention that anyone looking at Rice as a possible "pitstop" should know that student life there is very different and they might want to experience it before jumping in, and I'm not talking about the housing system. I don't know where you got those last statements about nightlife and networking.
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Old 02-20-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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Your line of reasoning is quite bad. Sure, let's skip Lubbock cause Houston is better? Why do Houston, then? LA, NYC are better. London is better. Paris is Better. Tokyo is Better...Or not. Omaha is pretty good for business. Bentonvile is big business as well. Silicon Valley is not as big as Houston. Is Houston still "better?"

I'm not sure what direction you are going in re: Rice. Their students know how to have a good time just as well as any other college campus. I only mention that anyone looking at Rice as a possible "pitstop" should know that student life there is very different and they might want to experience it before jumping in, and I'm not talking about the housing system. I don't know where you got those last statements about nightlife and networking.
Houston is better than Lubbock, skip it. That's exactly my point. Your line of reasoning is quite bad as this was a discussion on what colleges to choose in TEXAS. As far as Texas goes, Houston is the biggest and diverse, offering ample opportunities. Rice is the best college for both quality of education and student life. As far as nightlife goes, which also qualifies as student life, Houston wins hands down against most college towns.

On Rice, what makes it unique from the traditional state college experience you'd get at UT or A&M are probably class size and it's residential housing system. I don't see how else it would vastly differ from other colleges if you weren't talking about the residential system? If you say you know they know how to have a good time, then what are you referring to? Conservative vs liberal atmosphere? What is student life to you?
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Old 02-20-2017, 08:15 PM
 
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Houston is better than Lubbock, skip it. That's exactly my point. Your line of reasoning is quite bad as this was a discussion on what colleges to choose in TEXAS. As far as Texas goes, Houston is the biggest and diverse, offering ample opportunities. Rice is the best college for both quality of education and student life. As far as nightlife goes, which also qualifies as student life, Houston wins hands down against most college towns.
On one hand, you praise the Houston nightlife, but on the other, you look down on getting drunk with good ol boys in Podunk, Texas. It sounds like you belong in Dallas, not in Houston.

For the record, I didn't brought up Lubbock, but it's as good an example as anything else. Lubbock could be the next Bentonvile as far as big business. Oil fields out there are making a comeback. There is potential there. You can make contacts there for 4 years and still have plenty of time to make it to Houston for all the nightlife and 40 hour work weeks you want. Or you can skip the experience, and hurry to Houston for all the nightlife and 40 hour work weeks you want.

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On Rice, what makes it unique from the traditional state college experience you'd get at UT or A&M are probably class size and it's residential housing system. I don't see how else it would vastly differ from other colleges if you weren't talking about the residential system? If you say you know they know how to have a good time, then what are you referring to? Conservative vs liberal atmosphere? What is student life to you?
Like I said, I can tell you know nothing about it.
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Old 02-20-2017, 08:43 PM
 
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On one hand, you praise the Houston nightlife, but on the other, you look down on getting drunk with good ol boys in Podunk, Texas. It sounds like you belong in Dallas, not in Houston.

For the record, I didn't brought up Lubbock, but it's as good an example as anything else. Lubbock could be the next Bentonvile as far as big business. Oil fields out there are making a comeback. There is potential there. You can make contacts there for 4 years and still have plenty of time to make it to Houston for all the nightlife and 40 hour work weeks you want. Or you can skip the experience, and hurry to Houston for all the nightlife and 40 hour work weeks you want.



Like I said, I can tell you know nothing about it.
I don't look down on it just that people play up the student life in small college towns as something every young person must experience as though it were a coming of age rite. It's not. And it usually comes from older exurb or small town residents who went to those schools and had a blast and think lowly of a city college like UH. That's where I am coming from, so drop the insinuation that I am just a Dallasite snob or something. If anything I think it's ridiculous that it's still being considered a mere commuter school, which tells me that many in here are probably a bit older and know next to nothing of the major changes. So yes, one could go to Texas Tech and make contacts while getting drunk in a field or just skip that and go to a nice club while networking in Houston. It depends on the person, but this notion that the former is some sort of life changing experience is overdone and outdated. You can have so much more going to school in a major city. So much more, it doesn't even compare. Only guys wearing Vineyard Vine polos and Sperry's with no socks think otherwise.

On Rice, all you've said is that it's "weird" and nothing else. So what is it that you know? Instead of being flippant enlighten us.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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If you're from a top-ten metro (DFW, Houston, NYC etc.), there's nothing wrong with going to UH, UTD etc. UT-Austin and A&M seem like better fits for people from smaller towns and mid-sized metros. Austin is awesome but as an inner-city kid from Dallas, it doesn't have much that I can't get back home. This is even more evident at a school like A&M.

The only real difference between the UT's and the UH's is personality. IMO, the typical UT recent grad is a bit more of a "Type A" personality though not necessarily more gifted or intelligent. My company recently started recruiting there and the managers noted that all of the applicants were well qualified, but none of them really stood out. They all wore dark blue/black suits, dark ties and their resume's looked like identical copies of each other. By comparison, my UTD-self wore a steel grey suit with a colorful purple paisley tie. In other words, as "weird" as Austin is, it can breed a sort of conformity that may not work for every student. Like a much larger, more socially complex version of high school.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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You mean how they all wear the same black North Face fleece? Yes I totally get what you mean. Good post. You laid out what I tried to say more articulately.
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