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Old 11-25-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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"Fair point" because I researched the summer averages myself and found that Jax does indeed have more variable rainfall than I assumed. Other parts of the state are in fact more reliably wet from Jun-Aug, such as Tallahassee and South Florida. Houston's location makes it susceptible to humid air from the Gulf that comes with a little less rain. Quite different from even the Golden Triangle region, which is more like North Florida; cypress swamps and all.

As for the flora, the OP won't find natural tulip poplars or slash pine out here.
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Old 11-25-2017, 03:53 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Houston's location makes it susceptible to humid air from the Gulf that comes with a little less rain. Quite different from even the Golden Triangle region, which is more like North Florida; cypress swamps and all.
Nice. Though much of the 610 core of Houston, especially S/E of 69, looks similar to the Golden Triangle climate-wise (except the UHI, of course). Galveston Bay locations also are similar. Places in Brazoria county might also be similar, although the remoteness of the area makes it hard to find reliable stations of record.

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As for the flora, the OP won't find natural tulip poplars or slash pine out here.
The natural range of tulip poplar in FL stops well north of Tampa. So it comes down to knowing the slashes from the loblollies.

Then again, there's always cultivation from silviculture.

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Old 11-25-2017, 06:18 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Nice. Though much of the 610 core of Houston, especially S/E of 69, looks similar to the Golden Triangle climate-wise (except the UHI, of course). Galveston Bay locations also are similar. Places in Brazoria county might also be similar, although the remoteness of the area makes it hard to find reliable stations of record.



The natural range of tulip poplar in FL stops well north of Tampa. So it comes down to knowing the slashes from the loblollies.

Then again, there's always cultivation from silviculture.
Nice
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:48 AM
 
Location: ft lauderdale
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I heard it's really cloudy all winter, is that true?
No
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Old 11-28-2017, 01:05 AM
 
Location: ft lauderdale
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On the other hand, that difference isn't consistent on a year-by-year basis, and doesn't manifest most years. On top of that, the seasonal rainfall type is of a mechanism that ensures sheer randomness in distribution. Lastly, the landscape of Houston is still retains the atmosphere and vibe; the same flora survive and thrive and abundant hydrologic features are still present.

As a result, the difference, while certainly present, is too dampened to require any adjustment, or to change the generality of the climate.
As far as flora goes, one thing I find very unique about the Tampa Bay area is the drastic change in flora depending on where in the area you are due to the latitude and geographical features. Moreso than any other metro in the USA

Since it is coastal as well as only a few degrees north of the tropic of cancer, the flora changes drastically as you move from the coastal parts of the gulf beaches and the bay towards the more inland parts. Being so close to where subtropical meets tropical, the few degrees of temperature difference totally changes the landscape of the areas near the water with what can be grown.

Around the bay and especially near the gulf beaches, it looks more like tropical south Florida than it does nearby Orlando or the rest of the southeastern US for that matter with tropical flora like coconut palms, royal palms, banyan trees, royal poincianas, etc. dotting the landscape. However drive no more than 10-15 minutes inland and it changes drastically to looking exactly like Orlando, Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc.
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Old 12-02-2017, 07:19 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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But overall, the 2000s decade was much wetter than this new decade as a whole; that decade was just headlines of tropical storms like Allison, and hurricanes like Ike and Katrina. The years of that decade saw frequent heavy July/August rains. Spending summers in Houston at that time, I never would have expected a year like 2011 to occur. Harvey definitely made up for lost time.
The frequent heavy July/August rains are very cyclical. The late-'90s were known for drought conditions due to the lack of frequent rains. The wetter '00s broke the drought, but it came back again in the early-'10s. The past 2 summers have become wetter than the rest of the decade. Harvey may mark an anomaly or the beginning of wetter summers again.

Early 2011 was so cold. I remember that February that the temperature constantly hovered around freezing for a while. Most of the day the temperatures were in the mid-to-high 20s and the high around the middle of the day was a little warmer in the low 30s. The past few winters have not been cold. There hasn't been any "snow" event since 2004 and 2009.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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As far as flora goes, one thing I find very unique about the Tampa Bay area is the drastic change in flora depending on where in the area you are due to the latitude and geographical features. Moreso than any other metro in the USA

Since it is coastal as well as only a few degrees north of the tropic of cancer, the flora changes drastically as you move from the coastal parts of the gulf beaches and the bay towards the more inland parts. Being so close to where subtropical meets tropical, the few degrees of temperature difference totally changes the landscape of the areas near the water with what can be grown.

Around the bay and especially near the gulf beaches, it looks more like tropical south Florida than it does nearby Orlando or the rest of the southeastern US for that matter with tropical flora like coconut palms, royal palms, banyan trees, royal poincianas, etc. dotting the landscape. However drive no more than 10-15 minutes inland and it changes drastically to looking exactly like Orlando, Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc.
If not for one simple flaw in North American geography, even Houston, Jacksonville, New Orleans, etc would all have been growing those plants right now.

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The frequent heavy July/August rains are very cyclical. The late-'90s were known for drought conditions due to the lack of frequent rains. The wetter '00s broke the drought, but it came back again in the early-'10s. The past 2 summers have become wetter than the rest of the decade. Harvey may mark an anomaly or the beginning of wetter summers again.
The farther west the Bermuda High, the wetter summers are in Houston (and the drier they are in the far South Atlantic/Caribbean):
https://www.geo.umass.edu/climate/ha...tracts/liu.pdf
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