More People Leaving Harris County than Arriving (Houston, Dallas: 2014, houses)

[cBach]

The domestic out-migration of people from Harris County to other parts of the US was directly due to the downturn in the O&G industry.

If you think this is bad, wait until the data is collected next year after the Harvey impacts are calculated.

[cBach]

Basically the births counteracts the net outflow and the international immigration is why Houston grew. Next year look for the out migration to basically double and for Houston to lose population for the first time since the mid 1980's.

[jfre81]

I really couldn't have picked a better three years to go see the country.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by cBach

Basically the births counteracts the net outflow and the international immigration is why Houston grew. Next year look for the out migration to basically double and for Houston to lose population for the first time since the mid 1980's.

If the local jobs numbers are any indicator, then you'd be wrong yet again.

[cBach]

The fact that Houston's population growth has slowed (while DFW was among the fastest growing, that must hurt) shows that the posers that said Houston would eventually "catch" Chicago have no clue at all.

It's what you get for being a one trick pony, selling your soul to the O&G industry and not developing any other industries. I mean, even us in Austin are courting an Amazon HQ2.

[huma281]

Originally Posted by Ghost Town

I wish this trend continues.
Why do we have to be #1 in growth?
What benefits does it give to you?

#1 growth gives us more traffic. Who doesn't want to spend more time in their car jamming out to their favorite tunes?

[huma281]

Originally Posted by cBach

The fact that Houston's population growth has slowed (while DFW was among the fastest growing, that must hurt) shows that the posers that said Houston would eventually "catch" Chicago have no clue at all.

It's what you get for being a one trick pony, selling your soul to the O&G industry and not developing any other industries. I mean, even us in Austin are courting an Amazon HQ2.

I haven't read through this whole thread, but who claimed Houston would catch Chicago?

What does Austin courting Amazon HQ have to do with anything? Fact is they won't be able to procure it either.

[tstone]

I heard that Houston would eventually surpass Chicago when I was a kid. That was 30 years ago, still hasn't happened and that's certainly not a bad thing.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

A broader since of data has to be had. County data isnt the best way at looking at the whole metro area. That said, the MSA data isnt much better. Bear in mind, these number are before Harvey. These reflect the oil downturn.

In 2016, for the Houston MSA:

International in Migration: 43,094
Domestic out Migration: -10,732

When the 2017 numbers come out, I would imagine that domestic out migration will increase. That said, I dont think the international numbers will budge.

[Sagle Sam 2016]

Originally Posted by RocketSci

Interesting data from the Census estimates and a report from the Rice/Kinder Institute:



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https://kinder.rice.edu/2018/04/10/h...ris-county-not

A breakdown by year in Harris County since 2010 shows the natural increase due to births/deaths (about 45,000 per year) and international migration (about 33,000 per year) have been stable, but domestic in-migration dropped from a 17,000 net inflow two years ago to a 45,000 net outflow last year. Note that these changes were measured before Harvey struck.

Is this a temporary trend, or does this represent a longer term change? What areas have been most affected?

Yeah, illegal aliens pouring in will tend to have that effect on the population of legal citizens who want to preserve their culture and way of life.