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Old 07-08-2018, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Until everyone quits moving here and needing homes, houston won’t be stopping developers from paving over everything totally unchecked. City loves their tax base.
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Old 07-08-2018, 09:37 PM
 
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Flooded, abandoned and foreclosed property doesn't make for much of a tax base.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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AGAIN, I said around “certain” areas and people made excuses that they were one in however hundred year events. How is this confusing?
You didn't say anything that was confusing. I just wouldn't consider 2018 to be one of those events. It was very localized flooding that cleared out quickly and the flooding wasn't widespread like those other years you listed. If Harvey hadn't had happened then this thread wouldn't have either. At least Harvey has sped up drainage/retention plans for the region so that's good.
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:41 AM
 
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Until everyone quits moving here and needing homes, houston won’t be stopping developers from paving over everything totally unchecked. City loves their tax base.
Almost none of the new development that covers open space occurs in the City.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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You didn't say anything that was confusing. I just wouldn't consider 2018 to be one of those events. It was very localized flooding that cleared out quickly and the flooding wasn't widespread like those other years you listed. If Harvey hadn't had happened then this thread wouldn't have either. At least Harvey has sped up drainage/retention plans for the region so that's good.
Well that's why I said certain areas along the bayou. Not for the entire city.

BTW, to the person who is so cowardly to leave comments in my rep instead of DM'ing me, thank you.
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Old 07-09-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Well that's why I said certain areas along the bayou. Not for the entire city.

BTW, to the person who is so cowardly to leave comments in my rep instead of DM'ing me, thank you.
I wear anonymous coward insults in the rep comments as a sort of badge of achievement. I wish I could still see them all. It's a reminder that I fear no man, while others are too scared to sign even an Internet handle to something they say to me.

The only thing I could ever fear about man is not the words of one, but the ignorance, incompetence and hubris of those in positions of power and influence.

The kind that, in this case, boldly ignore reality, history and nature.
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Old 07-09-2018, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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Well that's why I said certain areas along the bayou. Not for the entire city.

BTW, to the person who is so cowardly to leave comments in my rep instead of DM'ing me, thank you.
Welcome to the club
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Old 07-09-2018, 03:53 PM
 
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For the record, I don't see anyone just "parroting" other comments. This is pretty much what the rest of the country sees in Houston right now. It's as much perception as reality, but there's a distinct element of reality that we are fools to ignore.

Maybe it's a good thing. Do we want people to move here just because we can say Houston is the third-largest city in America one day, or something else only the stat dweebs in the City vs. City forums obsess about?

I know what developers and the local officials want. Contracts, tax dollars and campaign contributions. And that's just the over-the-table stuff.

What do we want?
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:26 PM
 
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The reason this happens is because unlike with homeowners insurance, in which you can purchase coverage to bring your home up to current code after it is damaged, you don't have that option with flood insurance. The NFIP provides a flat $30,000 in coverage for bringing a house up to compliance with current flood map regulations. It costs about $150,000 to raise a 1,500 square foot home 5 feet. So basically what is being advocated here is after a flood, the house just becomes abandoned, foreclosed, etc. Declaring properties substantially damaged will not happen until the NFIP offers a coverage option that would allow a viable alternative to just repairing the house as is. Either pay for the property as a total loss like after a car accident, or pay to lift the house so there aren't any future damage floods. But to say that people are just stupid for rebuilding is not accurate because there are no other alternatives. The house I grew up in had flood number 5 with Harvey. Who is going to buy it? No one. Mitigation is key and that is the missing link to stopping the bleeding.

Somebody please explain to me how this sustainable.

I am also waiting for an explanation
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Old 07-10-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Would you like to meet my cousin who is in a hotel room in Dallas right now because his house in Meyerland has now taken water for the second time in a rolling 12-month period?
Who would be stupid enough to live in Meyerland? But I would completely understand if he was Orthodox Jew with the prohibition of walking more than 1 km on the Sabbath.
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