Harris County Drive-Through Voting Disenfranchisement

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by WRM20

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

It serves no purpose to see for those who can't comprehend what they are looking at.


The issue here isn't whether or not a small percentage of people have trouble establishing valid id. They surely do (although this issue will resolve itself over time). The issue is that we cannot sacrifice election box sanctity to the lowest common denominator. We cannot waive identification of 25 million voters because 25,000 do not, or will not attempt to get, state-issued id. The solution is to get them all id.

Your earlier allegation that getting valid id is "darn hard to get" and having to provide "17 different documents" is simply ridiculous hyperbole at best. The reality is that it is very easy to get and you only need provide any one of those doucuments. Here is the official word. Note many of these documents are non-photo documents issued by private parties who may not have performed any identity validation and many of them have requirement of citizenship.

Here is a list of the supporting forms of ID that can be presented if the voter does not possess one of the forms of acceptable photo ID and cannot reasonably obtain one:

• copy or original of a government document that shows the voter’s name and an address, including the voter’s voter registration certificate;
• copy of or original current utility bill;
• copy of or original bank statement;
• copy of or original government check;
• copy of or original paycheck; or
• copy of or original of (a) a certified domestic (from a U.S. state or territory) birth certificate or (b) a document confirming birth admissible in a court of law which establishes the voter’s identity (which may include a foreign birth document).

After presenting one of the forms of supporting ID listed above, the voter must execute a Reasonable Impediment Declaration.

https://www.votetexas.gov/mobile/id-faqs.htm

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by oceangaia

It serves no purpose to see for those who can't comprehend what they are looking at.


The issue here isn't whether or not a small percentage of people have trouble establishing valid id. They surely do (although this issue will resolve itself over time). The issue is that we cannot sacrifice election box sanctity to the lowest common denominator. We cannot waive identification of 25 million voters because 25,000 do not, or will not attempt to get, state-issued id. The solution is to get them all id.

Your earlier allegation that getting valid id is "darn hard to get" and having to provide "17 different documents" is simply ridiculous hyperbole at best. The reality is that it is very easy to get and you only need provide any one of those doucuments. Here is the official word. Note many of these documents are non-photo documents issued by private parties who may not have performed any identity validation and many of them have requirement of citizenship.

Here is a list of the supporting forms of ID that can be presented if the voter does not possess one of the forms of acceptable photo ID and cannot reasonably obtain one:

• copy or original of a government document that shows the voter’s name and an address, including the voter’s voter registration certificate;
• copy of or original current utility bill;
• copy of or original bank statement;
• copy of or original government check;
• copy of or original paycheck; or
• copy of or original of (a) a certified domestic (from a U.S. state or territory) birth certificate or (b) a document confirming birth admissible in a court of law which establishes the voter’s identity (which may include a foreign birth document).

After presenting one of the forms of supporting ID listed above, the voter must execute a Reasonable Impediment Declaration.

https://www.votetexas.gov/mobile/id-faqs.htm

Blah, blah, blah. Why do you hate poor people?

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by WRM20

Blah, blah, blah. Why do you hate poor people?

Blah, blah, blah. Why do you turn to hatemongering when you lose on logic and fact?

[Dopo]

Why can't we just have a photo voting ID?
why is it so difficult to do that?

[oceangaia]

Originally Posted by Dopo

Why can't we just have a photo voting ID?
why is it so difficult to do that?

I wish. Mail-in ballots nullify photo id, though.