07-01-2008, 09:10 AM
Location: Katy,TX.
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Another thing that I find funny is Texas suppose to be a red state i.e., that mental midget Bush, Conservative,
Christians , anti gay marriage ect... but at the same time a lot of these people have no problem playing the Judge, Jury, and the executioner role LMAO I thought God was the only one who should do this work.
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07-01-2008, 09:39 AM
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usc619
That's all it was, nothing more nothing less, so tell me genius what other source of info do we have to go on? unless you were there I take it that what you're also basing your info on.
The information is available if you aren't too lazy to turn off the TV and get off the couch. People who are in uproar do not have the complete picture. I recommend that you read the Texas Castle Doctrine in its entirety, read the 911 transcripts, the court filings, initiate discourse with the DA's office, and spend some time in Pasadena (be careful though, it
is still the south) for starters.
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usc619
What he did was flat out wrong! but I don't feel sorry for the thugs.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth a bit. Pick a side.
I'm sure you also support the troops but not the war and think that the 2nd amendment protects individual gun rights but doesn't preclude government restriction and regulation.
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No F@#king way that redneck is "an American hero" only a moron would make that statement
I have to assume you are addressing the OP because I don't think he's a hero, I simply think that the court ruled correctly for once.
07-01-2008, 09:51 AM
Location: Houston, Texas
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usc619
That's all it was, nothing more nothing less, so tell me genius what other source of info do we have to go on? unless you were there I take it that what you're also basing your info on.
What he did was flat out
wrong! but I don't feel sorry for the thugs.
No F@#king way that redneck is "an American hero" only a moron would make that statement
If he was so wrong then why was he found NOT GUILTY? Is it your system you think failed you? If so why has your system failed you when it welcomed those 2 and all the other illegals into OUR country against the currently written laws? (which are ignored)
Your system sucks but on very very rare occasions we can chaulk one up for the good guys. This is such an occasion.
And if you woke up from a deep sleep in your comfy little bed and saw these 2 criminals what would you do? Dont you dare say call the cops. How's that gona help you anyway? Would you bend over and say take what you want? Would you tell them they are breaking the law? Like they care? Would you tell them to just kill you and your family because that TV is more important then them?
Im trying to stoop down and see what you are seeing here and I cant. How do you think Joe Horns neighbor feels that he saved his familys jewery that has been in his family for generations? Do you think he is grateful? I know so.
07-01-2008, 09:53 AM
Location: Katy,TX.
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The information is available if you aren't too lazy to turn off the TV and get off the couch. People who are in uproar do not have the complete picture. I recommend that you read the Texas Castle Doctrine in its entirety, read the 911 transcripts, the court filings, initiate discourse with the DA's office, and spend some time in Pasadena (be careful though, it is still the south) for starters.
Ha, that's funny lol Pasadena and Vidor were the first two area I was told to avoid when I moved to Houston.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth a bit. Pick a side.
I'm sure you also support the troops but not the war and think that the 2nd amendment protects individual gun rights but doesn't preclude government restriction and regulation.
Yes, I do support the troops and not the war(I don't see nothing wrong with that)
My brother serve in Iraq for over a year NEWS FLASH! most troops don't either.
I have to assume you are addressing the OP because I don't think he's a hero, I simply think that the court ruled correctly for once.
That was not directed at YOU or the OP, just my opinion
Time to move on.
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07-01-2008, 10:00 AM
Location: Houston, Texas
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I'm not getting involved in the partisan/nationalistic chest-beating this has predictably descended into, but this does set a major precedent that will probably be tested again. And invariably people are gonna die as a result.
I wonder how much the burglary rates are gonna be affected after this bit of news.
Well I dont know how old you are or even if you would have known about news back in NYC back in 1984 but another American Hero named Bernhard Goetz did the same thing. Well more like Charles Bronson did in Deathwish. He walked the streets at night looking for crime. Something the cops dont do. When he found people breaking in or stealing purses or preying on the eldery, he blew their heads off.
Well guess what. Crime was down 40% after about the 3rd act of justice by Bernhard.
In addition questions were raised about the usefullness of the cop force. Why was this armed citizen finding all this crime that the cops were not?
07-01-2008, 10:03 AM
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I was born in the year that is shown in my username, but I've heard of Bernhard Goetz.
If the cops and the government are this useless, why don't we give full-blown anarchy a shot?
07-01-2008, 10:05 AM
Location: Clear Lake, Houston TX
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Hey usc not to switch topics but I gotta say Vidor is ~ 100 miles away from Houston on average. Worlds apart.
But yeah, Pasadena, Baytown... the whole outer east side is a good area to avoid.
07-01-2008, 10:23 AM
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If he was so wrong then why was he found NOT GUILTY? Is it your system you think failed you? If so why has your system failed you when it welcomed those 2 and all the other illegals into OUR country against the currently written laws? (which are ignored)
Your system sucks but on very very rare occasions we can chaulk one up for the good guys. This is such an occasion.
And if you woke up from a deep sleep in your comfy little bed and saw these 2 criminals what would you do? Dont you dare say call the cops. How's that gona help you anyway? Would you bend over and say take what you want? Would you tell them they are breaking the law? Like they care? Would you tell them to just kill you and your family because that TV is more important then them?
Im trying to stoop down and see what you are seeing here and I cant. How do you think Joe Horns neighbor feels that he saved his familys jewery that has been in his family for generations? Do you think he is grateful? I know so.
Desertsun I think YOU have a real problem with Illegals(not saying that's wrong), but you need to step back and think of the situation as if it were two family members who were jumping out of the window and joe thought they were robing the place. The point I'm trying to make is it's not joe's place to be the JUDGE, JURY, and EXECUTIONER period.
07-01-2008, 10:30 AM
Location: Houston, Texas
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Desertsun I think YOU have a real problem with Illegals(not saying that's wrong), but you need to step back and think of the situation as if it were two family members who were jumping out of the window and joe thought they were robing the place. The point I'm trying to make is it's not joe's place to be the JUDGE, JURY, and EXECUTIONER period.
Family member do not jump out broken windows carrying TV sets and pillow bags filled with jewelry. Family members reconize other family members. Decent families do not allow their kids to cover their arms in gang member tattoos.
Does that clear that up?
Yes I have a problem with illegals. What part of illegal do you not understand? Is it more illegal to rob a house then it is to cross the border? Of course not. A crime is a crime.
I think it was LindseyMcfarren said earlier, that's the way it's done in Texas. Texas is a pro gun state. In fact an open carry law is right now pending in Texas. That will be better because those who want to start something with me while walking the dog late at night might be more inclined to pass if they see my gun rather then me having to conceal it which would be more tempting to them since I would look like an easy target.
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07-01-2008, 10:36 AM
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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This story got alot of coverage but I have heard of others more severe then this and the person didn't get in any trouble at all.
Its how it is done in Texas, its that simple. If you don't like it, you need to move because its not going to change. Gun laws are only becoming more and more lax as time goes by.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)