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Old 12-20-2009, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Thanks to lax enforcement by TCEQ, plants along the Houston Ship Channel launch tons of toxic gases into our air, and face little penalty even when they exceed pollution limits over and over again.
Source: Houston News - A Quiet Hell - page 1
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The Houston Press - a journalistic bastion of integrity. Hmm which suffering minority story can we do this week? We've done homeless, lepers, SE Asians, GLBT, ex cons, single moms, I guess its time to hit poor living by the plants again.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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The Houston Press - a journalistic bastion of integrity. Hmm which suffering minority story can we do this week? We've done homeless, lepers, SE Asians, GLBT, ex cons, single moms, I guess its time to hit poor living by the plants again.
Is any of the article untrue? A critique is stronger if it is actually fact-based, rather than simply spouting rhetoric.
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:09 PM
 
Location: #
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Houston-nomad, if Fox, CNN (whatever your preference is) ended their newscasts with 10 minutes of advertisements for massage parlors and escort services would you believe them to be a credible source?
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:24 PM
 
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I don't see the connection... print journalism is desperate to stay alive right now. They've got to get ad revenue from somewhere. Anyway, I'm not saying the story or the source is good or bad... but I'm still waiting for someone to intelligently argue that there's any reason to think it's not credible.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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Wasn't the city (mayor) trying to fight this problem, but being hampered by the state?

BTW, do Austin folks read the Houston Press now to find the "dirt" on Houston so they can continue to complain about how "awful" it is compared to their "oasis?"
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Houston's air pollution above standard - News (http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2004/04/20/News/Houstons.Air.Pollution.Above.Standard-665261.shtml - broken link)

NASA - Getting the Big Picture on Houston's Air Pollution

City Mayors: The most polluted US cities

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0325155252.htm
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The numbers should be public record, so I wont argue those. But if you look at the big picture the Lyondell facility processes about 10,000,000 lbs of petroleum products per DAY (300 kbbl/day). Their ANNUAL emissions were roughly 1,000,000 lbs according to the article. So if you do the math the % emitted is quite small (about .03%).

This article makes it seem like its 1950's and smokestacks are billowing carcinogens into the air without any regards to the environment. Petrochemical facilities pay a lot of money for equipment to prevent emissions. Lazy sensational 'journalism'.

Last edited by Oildog; 12-20-2009 at 04:31 PM..
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Old 12-20-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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TCEQ does have the reputation of being "lax" about environmental regulations when it involves big business. Houston has consistently improved its air pollution over the years and certainly doesn't warrant the stereotypes of toxic air pollution that people still have. Certainly, living in close proximity to these industrial areas are not good for your health, but most of the city isn't all that affected by it.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:45 AM
 
Location: A little suburb of Houston
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residents should be concerned about the high level of pollution on Houston.
Yes, pollution should always be a concern. Folks should also be aware that the pollution in Houston is about 1/2 - 1/4 what it was just 20 years ago. I think we have made great progress.
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