Improper photography? What do you think?

[Kenpar]

Yeah, if it was a Girls Soccer game then that is different. If he is from a paper I would think he would have some kind of badge or something. But, then again I am just thinking about 1950's news men, haha. I don't know if they do that. He must have looked pretty grimy, was hiding behind a bush, or taking the pictures from his car for someone to notice.

I also don't know a parent that wouldn't want there kid to not be in the paper. If the kid plays a sport, then they will beg to get them in a picture. As you have said already.

The guy would have to be a major pervert to try and get off on kids playing sports. So would the person reading the paper for that reason. But hey, he is a human being. And there isn't much more you can say about that, haha.

[XodoX]

The bottom line is that say probably CAN get you for whatever if they wanted to. I remember this case where a little boy helped his younger sister pee and then got arrested for this.
Even at the clubs here they make you frequently sign a release paper. I've never signed one myself though. My desire ain't this strong to be in pictures taken at the club

[jfre81]

Originally Posted by Kenpar

If he is from a paper I would think he would have some kind of badge or something.

I was probably about four years in before I ever started wearing a credential on a lanyard around my neck. Most of the time I was hitting the same spots and everyone knew who I was and what I was doing anyway. I was a writer, mind, rather than a photographer, though I dabbled with the camera from time to time at another paper I worked at before Galveston. I suppose this guy wasn't a familiar face around this soccer field? He wasn't one of the girls' uncles or grandpas who liked to carry around a few issues of Hustler in his car?

The guy would have to be a major pervert to try and get off on kids playing sports.

That's my take, but you never know what people will use a photo for. Somebody could be taking earthquake pictures in Haiti and provide something useful for a necrophiliac if some dead bodies are in it. Maybe if it said "without consent and with intent to reasonably provide sexual gratification to a person" or something to that effect. As it is, this just makes it a bit like the warnings that manufacturers have to put on consumer goods, (e.g. "DO NOT IRON CLOTHES WHILE WEARING") to protect themselves from lawsuits from people who go above and beyond ordinary levels of stupidity. And human stupidity has no limits.

[xS☺B☺s]

An intriguing subject.

The government is taking mores steps day by day to photograph us, but can we photograph them?

I did a little research on the subject a while back since I'm a shutterbug myself.

What I found was that the legal fundamental is that anyone can photograph anything or anyone in a public place. IOW, if you are out in public, you can be photographed.

When out shutterbugging, a subject that undoubtedly is worthy of photography in human societies is obviously humans. NYC has nice buildings and parks, but isn't it the humanity that really makes it exciting? Wanting to capture that in pictures or video I think is a noble endeavor. One day someone will appreciate it.

To go a step further - I found the women walking the streets of Boston to be a simply breathtaking sight to see. Is it a crime to want to capture and share with the world such an amazing scene? Doesn't everyone in the world want to see the pretty faces wherever they may be? Or should we all just blur the best part of our whole society out of the annuls of history for fear of that rare freaky kook or some poor sorry sob who may be doing something tacky in the privacy of his bedroom? Personally, I'd rather not be so ruled by fear.

NYC attempted to pass a law making videoing in the city illegal without a permit. The bill was broadly defined and stunk of giving police the opportunity to interpret it at their discretion. IOW, if you saw the police beating somebody down, the cops will take your camera. After significant public outcry, they relented.

As it stands, I understand it is perfectly legal to video anything any public person - especially police are doing. Police who are honest don't mind because if you are a good government official, you shouldn't need to have secrets anyways, right? But if you're a crooked cop, you might not want to be caught on camera.

If we could video all our politicians, used car salesmen, car mechanics and surgeons for whatever crookery they are involved with as often as they want to surveille us, we'd probably have a much better society, would we? Funny thing is it only really seems to work one way.

I think it's stupid to leave the people out of the picture when you are taking photos to document society as it is. A city is not all about its buildings, it's about its people. That's what people are interested in. Moving toward photographic prohibition is the road to the burkah.

[Kenpar]

Originally Posted by Bostonian08

When out shutterbugging, a subject that undoubtedly is worthy of photography in human societies is obviously humans. NYC has nice buildings and parks, but isn't it the humanity that really makes it exciting? Wanting to capture that in pictures or video I think is a noble endeavor. One day someone will appreciate it.

To go a step further - I found the women walking the streets of Boston to be a simply breathtaking sight to see. Is it a crime to want to capture and share with the world such an amazing scene? Doesn't everyone in the world want to see the pretty faces wherever they may be? Or should we all just blur the best part of our whole society out of the annuls of history for fear of that rare freaky kook or some poor sorry sob who may be doing something tacky in the privacy of his bedroom? Personally, I'd rather not be so ruled by fear.

I kind of agree with this. When I was in Maryland for work in '08 I was stunned by how beautiful the women in Maryland and D.C. were. And it seems they weren't shy at all about staring right back at you. But, that is another subject haha. I have lots of pictures from my time in both Maryland and D.C., and they are of the landscape and buildings mostly. I don't even know how to approach people to ask if I can take a picture of them. Mainly because of things like we are talking about in this discussion.

But, now that I think about it I would have probably liked to take pictures of the different people I met in these cities. There was the beautiful young Nordic waitress. The insanely hot Life Guard. The Artsy Nymph looking college student. The multitude of business women. The Hot college student from Howard University who wouldn't stop looking at me the entire time we were on the train. And the Hotel Desk Clerk that took us out in Maryland.

My point is that I think I should try and get more people in my photos, haha. They would have added a different element to my pictures for sure. I did get a group of Japanese tourist to pose though, haha.