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Old 04-30-2010, 03:16 PM
 
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How many of you actually carry something that proves you're here legally? Driver's license doesn't prove anything.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:19 PM
 
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First off, you're either an American or you're not an American, so I'll assume you mean a dark skinned American of Mexican descent. What in particular about the AZ law do you think would be the problem? Have you even read it?
Yes I have. It's an insult. An absolute insult.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:20 PM
 
Location: The Greater Houston Metro Area
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If you were a dark Mexican-American you would not think this law was a great idea.
Did you see the story on TV, where a native-born American was stopped and detained because he didn't have his birth certificate with him. His wife had to leave work, drive home and get both his and her birth certificate (smart girl - can you imagine if she had gone down there without hers?) and drive them across town - so they would let him go. He was a truck driver - I believe the truck was towed. I guess his crime was being here while brown.
How many people carry their birth certificate with them? How many even have them at home? Oh, wait, I'm white - I don't have to worry about it. In that case, it's fine, I guess. We are starting down a slippery slope with this. Starts out small and gets bigger.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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For the OP, I think it's a GREAT idea but I'd rather see it become a state wide TX law instead of just a Houston thing because that will just drive the problem to another part of the state.
Ditto!
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:30 PM
 
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Yes I have. It's an insult. An absolute insult.
Well that's too bad because the overwhelming majority of legal US citizens feel that the way the fed gov. has handled the illegal immigration problem for the last 10 - 20 years is far more insulting than asking someone who's already suspected of a crime to prove that they're in the country legally.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:32 PM
 
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How many of you actually carry something that proves you're here legally? Driver's license doesn't prove anything.
Which part of the AZ bill requires you to produce something other than a DL? In addition, wouldn't it make sense that once you only issue state DL or IDs to legal citizens you could then use that as proof of citizenship? Oh wait, I forgot about the sanctuary cities and states that have issues driver's licenses to ILLEGAL aliens, how stupid is that?
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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What would you think if Arizona's new and
For those who don't know, the law basically states that police will have the right to question any one who they suspect is in the country illegally. The law also requires that immigrants carry special identification with them to verify their immigration status if needed. If the person does not have the proper ID, he can be detained until the true immigration status can be confirmed.
You should at least try and be accurate in your statements. The proposal states that there must be probably cause (as the laws read now) in order to stop someone. It won't be legal to just stop someone because of skin tone. As for having a "special" identification, that's not true either. All they have to have is what is currently required by the federal government (maintaining authorization from the federal government to remain in the United States).

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Old 04-30-2010, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Bellevue, WA
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Oh, look at how many people are playing the overused "that's against the Constitution!" card.

I think, while I wouldn't fully support it, it's a step in the right direction. I don't know if you've looked at the numbers, but these illegal immigrants are costing this country billions.

And also, we're going about this the wrong way. Let's secure our damn borders before we institute something like this.
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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Controversial incidents

In March 2008, Jamiel Shaw Jr., a high school athlete, was murdered in Los Angeles by Pedro Espinoza, an illegal immigrant gang member from MS 13, as he was walking home. It is believed that Espinoza mistook Shaw Jr. for a rival gang member. Espinoza's legal status was not checked even though he had been arrested for assault and was released a day before the murder according to Police Chief Officer William Bratton. As a result of Jamiel Shaw Jr.'s death, a new ordinance is being proposed by family members that would allow police in the area to arrest suspected illegal immigrant gang members. In May 2009, members of the Shaw family filed a lawsuit against the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

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There are many more cases and this $hit is unacceptable!
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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I wish slick rick would grow a pair.
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