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Old 04-03-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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https://www.decodedscience.org/why-d...el-colder/6736

On a very cool damp day, however, this layer of trapped air contains water molecules. If it is damp, our clothing is also likely to contain some water molecules. It takes more heat energy to warm water than air. In physics parlance, water has a higher specific heat capacity than air. If the layer of air next to the skin is damp, it therefore takes more of the body’s heat energy to warm it. Hence the perceived temperature is cooler.
There is a measure for this, it's called the "wind chill" index or factor !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_chill
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Old 04-03-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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https://www.decodedscience.org/why-d...el-colder/6736

On a very cool damp day, however, this layer of trapped air contains water molecules. If it is damp, our clothing is also likely to contain some water molecules. It takes more heat energy to warm water than air. In physics parlance, water has a higher specific heat capacity than air. If the layer of air next to the skin is damp, it therefore takes more of the body’s heat energy to warm it. Hence the perceived temperature is cooler.
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Water vapor has about 10% more heat content per cubic foot per degree F. But the mass of the trapped air between you clothes and your body is so small compared to your own mass that heating up this air is not a signification contributor to feeling colder on a damp day.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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I guess I'm the only person that feels colder when my skin is wet
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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I guess I'm the only person that feels colder when my skin is wet
Being exposed to humidity is not the same as being wet. It turns out wind is a much more relevant criteria than humidity, which has been considered a insignificant factor in determining wind chill temps, according to the Wikipedia article I posted.

It turns out Texyn is right...
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Old 04-03-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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A factor ignored in discussions like this is that of weather "homeostasis." That is, the conditions upon stable presence of a weather pattern.

Conditions for homeostasis in Houston are much warmer than respective conditions in an area like Denver. Temps in the 30s-40s are near average high conditions for Denver during winter; the attendant conditions there (i.e. wind) are probably stable. On the other hand, the average high conditions are 60s-70s in Houston, so occurrence of 40s (especially in daylight hours) is the result of cold air advection from northern air-masses; as a result, they are more likely to be accompanied by wind (as well as rain and clouds initially in passage), making for "chilly" conditions compared to the same temperature in Denver. The temperature in Houston likely wouldn't be going much below the 50s at night and 70s in day if not for the cold air-masses.
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Summers can be anything from rain almost every day to no rain for weeks at a time.
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Cyclic.
Slide 12 in this PDF gives a good illustration why:
http://cropinsurance.org/wp-content/...-CIRB-2015.pdf
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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Slide 12 in this PDF gives a good illustration why:
http://cropinsurance.org/wp-content/...-CIRB-2015.pdf

Texyn just dropped the mic and walked off stage,,, BOOM !
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Old 04-03-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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IDK It's something that makes Houston cold feel really bad. It's not all the time, but sometimes it's that cold that makes you hurt. I've been far up in northern California where mornings are in the mid 30'S and it feel wonderful, nothing like Houston.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:01 PM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Texyn just dropped the mic and walked off stage,,, BOOM !
Forgot to mention that slides 10 and 11 also offer good graphics for explanation.

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IDK It's something that makes Houston cold feel really bad. It's not all the time, but sometimes it's that cold that makes you hurt. I've been far up in northern California where mornings are in the mid 30'S and it feel wonderful, nothing like Houston.
This is, again, the matter of "weather homeostasis" I discussed earlier. Just replace Denver with Northern California:

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A factor ignored in discussions like this is that of weather "homeostasis." That is, the conditions upon stable presence of a weather pattern.

Conditions for homeostasis in Houston are much warmer than respective conditions in an area like Denver. Temps in the 30s-40s are near average high conditions for Denver during winter; the attendant conditions there (i.e. wind) are probably stable. On the other hand, the average high conditions are 60s-70s in Houston, so occurrence of 30s-40s (especially in daylight hours) is the result of cold air advection from northern air-masses; as a result, they are more likely to be accompanied by wind (as well as rain and clouds initially in passage), making for "chilly" conditions compared to the same temperature in Denver. The temperature in Houston likely wouldn't be going much below the 50s at night and 70s in day if not for the cold air-masses.

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Old 10-09-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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What is Houston weather like? I'll put it in perspective for you. It's the 9th of October. I took my dogs out for a walk, against my will. It's 88 degrees and 60% humidity at 7:30 PM. THI is 100 degrees. It feels like the middle of August. We have a cool front coming tomorrow. It will get down to 85 degrees with a little less humidity. That will last for a whole day. The disgusting heat and humidity will be back to the 90's by Friday. Winter? That would be 3-4 days in January or February. It will get as low as the mid 40's, but still humid. If it weren't for my family, I would have left this flood prone steamy swamp years ago. Usefull advise: Don't come here unless you have to.
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