08-18-2011, 02:05 PM
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Hi All,
I have a pretty narrow school question. Can anyone give me some insight into the atmosphere/culture of Bob Jones vs. that of Huntsville High? Specifically, I'm interested in the honors/AP world and extracurricular activities. Is there a large cadre of bright, driven, creative students spurring each other to even greater achievement and involvement? Are the top students fully engaged and involved with the student body? Are the music, theater, and art programs big and visible? Do the teachers love what they teach? If you just thought about the experience of the honors society kids, how would these two schools compare?
Some background: my wife and I have lived in Huntsville-Madison for ten years, first in Southeast Huntsville, then Five Points, and now in Madison, so we're familiar with the area and with how passionate North Alabamians are about their neighborhoods and schools
. We've narrowed our home search to Madison - which we love and is close to friends, work, the pediatrician, etc. - and Monte Sano, which is a unique draw for obvious reasons. We really want our kids to have a vibrant high school like the ones we attended.
Any insight would be helpful. Thanks!
08-22-2011, 08:59 AM
Location: Madison city, alabama
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Look u asked a great question, We lived in Huntsville for a year and it was a big regret. Our son is a AP student and has been since kindergarten. He was virtually attacked and threatened at Huntsville city schools. He was treated as if it was weird that a black kid was that smart. Well my son is not really that black he is multiracial and he hated the school he was in. It was extremely lacking in education. They were two years behind what he already did in Florida. We moved him to Bob Jones and he has never been so happy. He makes lots of friends, there teachers are wonderful and treat the kids like adults and expect a lot out of them. They love your children like there own when there students are there. You know that when your child is in that building there are in safe capable hands. My son is a honors AP student, He is a Wrestler and the coaches are wonderful. All the staff are very sweet and extremely helpful to us parents and teacher.
08-22-2011, 02:16 PM
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I would have to say based on my experiences living here, that I would rather my kid go to Bob Jones than ANY city School
08-22-2011, 04:23 PM
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I would suggest moving to the west side of Madison and going to the new high school next year. Everything will be brand new, every student will be getting a laptop instead of textbooks and it will be a great environment with a top notch Principal!
08-22-2011, 11:54 PM
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We lived in Huntsville for a year and it was a big regret. Our son is a AP student and has been since kindergarten. He was virtually attacked and threatened at Huntsville city schools.
Over and over and over you tell this unfortunate tale of your child's one year experience at one school and present yourself as an expert on an entire city and school system? Give me a break. Not to make light of your son's predicament, which I don't doubt at all. And I'm sure he is every bit as bright as you say he is. But how does this one child's one year experience at one school in a system of over 50 schools make make the HCS a universally bad system and Huntsville city a bad place to live? It's ridiculous. I guess you'll have to explain to me as if I were a 3rd grader. I didn't have the fortune of attending school in Florida or in Madison schools. My poor HCS educated brain is having trouble comprehending I'm afraid.
08-23-2011, 07:34 AM
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Look u asked a great question, We lived in Huntsville for a year and it was a big regret. Our son is a AP student and has been since kindergarten. He was virtually attacked and threatened at Huntsville city schools. He was treated as if it was weird that a black kid was that smart. Well my son is not really that black he is multiracial and he hated the school he was in. It was extremely lacking in education. They were two years behind what he already did in Florida. We moved him to Bob Jones and he has never been so happy. He makes lots of friends, there teachers are wonderful and treat the kids like adults and expect a lot out of them. They love your children like there own when there students are there. You know that when your child is in that building there are in safe capable hands. My son is a honors AP student, He is a Wrestler and the coaches are wonderful. All the staff are very sweet and extremely helpful to us parents and teacher.
What Huntsville City School did your son go to?
08-23-2011, 08:20 AM
Location: Huntsville native
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What Huntsville City School did your son go to?
It was Ed White Middle. She's told the story in about three other threads as well.
08-23-2011, 08:25 AM
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Look u asked a great question, We lived in Huntsville for a year and it was a big regret. Our son is a AP student and has been since kindergarten. He was virtually attacked and threatened at Huntsville city schools. He was treated as if it was weird that a black kid was that smart. Well my son is not really that black he is multiracial and he hated the school he was in. It was extremely lacking in education. They were two years behind what he already did in Florida. We moved him to Bob Jones and he has never been so happy. He makes lots of friends, there teachers are wonderful and treat the kids like adults and expect a lot out of them. They love your children like there own when there students are there. You know that when your child is in that building there are in safe capable hands. My son is a honors AP student, He is a Wrestler and the coaches are wonderful. All the staff are very sweet and extremely helpful to us parents and teacher.
Yet in the other thread, you are saying you need a house to rent in a safe neighborhood because your apartment complex in Madison is full of drug dealers and hoodlums. The irony is astounding.
08-23-2011, 11:18 AM
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deesonic - IMO Superintendent Wardynski and new Principal Laqua are trying to keep Butler open. IMO Wardynski put all of the school closings on hold pending further review. Laqua has improved discipline at the school already (but the previous Principal set the bar very low).
08-24-2011, 07:25 AM
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deesonic - IMO Superintendent Wardynski and new Principal Laqua are trying to keep Butler open. IMO Wardynski put all of the school closings on hold pending further review. Laqua has improved discipline at the school already (but the previous Principal set the bar very low).
Promising so far. But I'm still fairly doubtful. Even though I am a BHS alum, I'm not necessarily one who is lobbying to keep it open either. I just think the damage done is nearly irreparable. I hope I'm wrong and someday the halls will once again be full of 1000s of students like it once was. BHS held the distinction of being the largest high school in the state at one time in the late 70s actually. But man do they ever need some windows in that place!
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Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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