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Old 09-07-2017, 09:42 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The news channels keep reminding us that Irma is the most powerful storm EVER in history? Really?

How would they know? There was no way to accurately track and measure hurricanes until relatively recently. In 1944 the navy blundered right into a hurricane and lost several ship. And 800 men.
(See Halsey's Hurricane) So even that recently they surely didn't know exactly how high the winds were, how low the pressure was, or how long the winds maintained their maximum speed.

Point is, it sounds dramatic to say Irma is the most powerful storm ever in history, but history isn't all that long - way less than 100 years, in this case.
It's big. It's fascinating. It's scary. But it may not be the biggest ever.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Recorded history. When they say the highest temperature ever, it actually means ever recorded.
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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And to add to the post above, only in "this" part ofnthe Atlantic. We've had stronger tropical systems in the Pacific.
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Old 09-08-2017, 09:03 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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"Right" to both of you, of course.

The point is, The Talking Heads on TV never point out that measured history in this case is only decades long. They make it sound like a storm of this magnitude has never existed on planet earth. And they couldn't possibly know that.

Note that - ironically - the Great Storm of 1900 hit Galveston on this date and killed 12,000 people! It had been in the Atlantic, and had visited Cuba, but no one really had much of an idea how intense it was.
Read Isaac's Storm by Eric Larson for a complete story.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005PRJNCY...ng=UTF8&btkr=1

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Old 09-08-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Note that - ironically - the Great Storm of 1900 hit Galveston on this date and killed 12,000 people! It had been in the Atlantic, and had visited Cuba, but no one really had much of an idea how intense it was.
Read Isaac's Storm by Eric Larson for a complete story.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005PRJNCY...ng=UTF8&btkr=1
A marvelous book.
I'm told my immigrant grandfather was on a boat that was supposed to land in Galveston (where there was a significant Russian Jewish presence). But it wasn't too long after the Great Storm and he said something like, "This is America?" and went on to Chicago and then Philly.
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Old 09-08-2017, 08:50 PM
 
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The news channels keep reminding us that Irma is the most powerful storm EVER in history? Really?

How would they know? There was no way to accurately track and measure hurricanes until relatively recently. In 1944 the navy blundered right into a hurricane and lost several ship. And 800 men.
(See Halsey's Hurricane) So even that recently they surely didn't know exactly how high the winds were, how low the pressure was, or how long the winds maintained their maximum speed.

Point is, it sounds dramatic to say Irma is the most powerful storm ever in history, but history isn't all that long - way less than 100 years, in this case.
It's big. It's fascinating. It's scary. But it may not be the biggest ever.
They hype every hurricane up like this for ratings.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:57 AM
 
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They hype every hurricane up like this for ratings.
It's pretty dam big. I think they've been pretty careful to emphasize that this is NOT hype. I mean, NOAA and National Hurricane Center aren't going for ratings.
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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They hype every hurricane up like this for ratings.
And if they didn't hype it up and a bunch of people got killed then they would be blamed for not warning everyone.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:32 AM
 
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No they arent saying that.

Your premise is fake news.
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Old 09-10-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Deep 13
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