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Old 09-21-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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Seeing some flooding damage in the few pictures of PR that are being circulated in the media. And some Cat 1/2 type damage. But not seeing any pics that show Cat 3/4 WIND damage; no real devastation of 125+ mph winds. Those winds rip roofs off, and all I'm seeing is peeled back -- not even ripped off -- TIN-type roofs. Seeing wood in the street from flooding. Seeing YOUNG trees bent over, electrical lines down. And none of this is Cat 3/4 level damage.

Where are the pics? ANY pics? There should be hundreds/thousands of pics of damage to PR. And still no pics of Dominica except that 3 min flyover by the BBC, where houses were still standing and roofs were intact.
Hard to post pics when there is no power on the island and 98% of cell service was down. Temp cell stations are going up, but even those will be overwhelmed. Pics are out there, but I am not going to link to them. Young trees bent over? Try concrete posts ripped out of the ground. My wife has family living in PR and we cannot reach them. They live in the middle of the island and cannot be reached. Nearly all towns on the interior of the island are unreachable because of damage, floods, etc. The real devastation is there.
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Old 09-21-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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New prelim rainfall estimate map by US NWS San Juan, Puerto Rico office (subject to change once gauges that are still reporting are verified, but also note that radar was knocked out the morning the storm hit so radar estimates are not available):

Edit, adding: A Flood Warning has been extended for the entire island of Puerto Rico until 545am Friday local time as flooding dangers are likely in some areas and unknown due to downed communications/radar, as well as the unknown of night. Travel should be avoided until sunrise, but the heaviest rains have moved off now according to satellite.


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Old 09-21-2017, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Dang - nearly 38 inches in that one local area.
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Before After Photo. Time to plant all new trees or new ones will eventually regenerate themselves.

https://twitter.com/Jenniffer2012/st...13512028573696
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Old 09-21-2017, 08:49 PM
 
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Evening models in fairly tight agreement, but notice that slight tick towards the coast in a few days just before suddenly pushed away from land. Timing of a strong cold front / trough will yield interesting results for around middle of next week time period.

Atlantic - Maria forms Sept 16, 2017-img_2294.jpg

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Old 09-21-2017, 08:58 PM
 
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And Thursday 11pmEST/AST 21Sept2017 cone map (only shows where the center point of storm could be in time):

Atlantic - Maria forms Sept 16, 2017-img_2295.png
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:48 PM
 
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Evening models in fairly tight agreement, but notice that slight tick towards the coast in a few days just before suddenly pushed away from land. Timing of a strong cold front / trough will yield interesting results for around middle of next week time period.

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That green one can go suck an egg!
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:30 AM
 
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5amEST 22Sept2017: winds 125mph, moving NW 7mph, pressure 959mb. Center of storm 35miles ENE of Grand Turk Island. Hurricane force winds extend up to 70miles from center, tropical storm winds up to 160miles from center. Some rains still affecting portions of Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and Haiti. Storm not looking as healthy as the day before now.

Atlantic - Maria forms Sept 16, 2017-img_2296.gif
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:36 AM
 
Location: ☀️ SFL (hell for me-wife loves it)
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We are so hurricane-weary. I am looking for tomorrow morning, when she makes that abrupt north and east into the open Atlantic and hurriedly away from Florida and all other land masses.
And a special shout out to Psychoma and Cambium for the scientific info and photos that keep us informed. I get most of my news online and am appreciative. One of you post that actual turn to the north in the morning, you'll make my day
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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Hard to post pics when there is no power on the island and 98% of cell service was down. Temp cell stations are going up, but even those will be overwhelmed. Pics are out there, but I am not going to link to them. Young trees bent over? Try concrete posts ripped out of the ground. My wife has family living in PR and we cannot reach them. They live in the middle of the island and cannot be reached. Nearly all towns on the interior of the island are unreachable because of damage, floods, etc. The real devastation is there.
Of course there is damage. What I am saying is that the damage is NOT indicative of a cat 4/5. See pics of Hurricane Andrew. That is devastation. That is a Cat 5. Nothing standing. Houses MOWED down. Tons of pics, how did they manage that in an era that didn't have cell phones?

All I am seeing in PR is flooding, trees down, power lines down, and damage to houses that appear to be made of tin and plywood. How were these poorly made houses standing before the storm anyway??? I saw one concrete piling laying down on a road, all the others on the street were upright, I think that pic was on CNN?

In the few pics that are being circulated, this wind damage is indicative of a Cat 2, NOT a Cat 4. That's all I am saying. As someone who is innundated with hurricane hype every time a cloud farts, the hype of Maria is not matching the destruction thus far.

ADD: Still no pics of Barbuda or Dominica.

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