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Old 10-11-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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11pEST Wednesday 11Oct2017: Hurricane, winds 85mph, moving NE 3mph, pressure 986mb. Hurricane force winds extend up to 25 miles from storm center, Tropical Storm winds up to 70 miles. A Tropical Storm Watch/Warning may be issued Thursday for the Azores islands.

Per NHC: " Almost all of the guidance now show Ophelia as a powerful extratropical low affecting Ireland, northern Ireland and Great Britain early next week."

Cone map (only shows where center may go in time) Where H/S symbols turn from black circles to white circles that signifies storm loosing its tropical characteristics (extra tropical) and basically becomes a large/strong North Atlantic gale / low pressure system:
Atlantic - Ophelia forms October 9, 2017-img_2708.png

Possible arrival times of Tropical Storm force winds(39-73mph is TS wind speed):
Atlantic - Ophelia forms October 9, 2017-img_2709.png
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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How can it be a hurricane when it is not over warm water? Don't hurricanes fall apart when they reach cold water?
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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Europe! Is Ophelia looking for Hamlet?
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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5pEST Thursday 12Oct2017: Winds 100mph, movement stationary (meandering really), pressure 973mb. Expected to start moving again within the next 24hours, and accelerate much faster as we go into the weekend.

Hurricane force winds extend up to 25 miles from storm center, Tropical Storm winds up to 80 miles. Expected to transition to an extra tropical system and interaction with an approaching will help expand the wind field greatly. Winds near hurricane force possible as the storm near Ireland/UK region.

Possible rains in the Azores Islands:
-Santa Maria Island: 2-4inches.
-Cold front + Ophelia could result in 1-3inches on the other Azores islands.
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:31 PM
 
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How can it be a hurricane when it is not over warm water? Don't hurricanes fall apart when they reach cold water?

It's right on the edge of 25-26 degree C waters (77-79 Fahrenheit degrees ) which is about minimal water temp needed to form a hurricane. In this particular case it won't fall apart when it reaches cold waters (as would otherwise yes, be expected) but instead start to weaken with the colder waters and then due to the approaching trough and "baroclinic interaction" between the two as NHC mentions, should transition Ophelia into a near hurricane strength "extra-tropical" system that does not need warm waters to survive (it's well built structure will help it survive between now and that point as well). Structure of storm changes in that process, we may see the pressure continue to fall, also typically spreading winds out over a much greater distance.

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Old 10-12-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/codyyeary/status/918587847455793152
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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5pm Discussion

Quote:
Hurricane Ophelia Discussion Number 15
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL172017
500 PM AST Thu Oct 12 2017

Ophelia's structure has continued to improve during the afternoon.
The eye of the hurricane has cleared and is surrounded by a ring of
cloud tops colder than -55 deg C.
Dvorak classifications from TAFB
and the UW-CIMSS ADT have increased accordingly, and on that basis
the initial intensity has been increased to 85 kt. Ophelia is
nearly stationary, which could cause the hurricane to stop
strengthening, or even weaken slightly during the next 12 to 24
hours due to upwelling effects. That said, the intensity guidance
is in good agreement that Ophelia will remain at hurricane strength
for the next 48 h while it remains in a fairly unstable, low-shear
environment. Beyond that time, extratropical transition will begin,
though baroclinic forcing will likely keep post-tropical Ophelia
near hurricane strength as it approaches Ireland and the UK
. The
new intensity forecast is very similar to the previous advisory, and
is generally close to the multi-model intensity consensus.

Although Ophelia is currently stationary, a mid-latitude trough
should cause it to begin moving toward the east-northeast within
about 24 hours. The cyclone will then accelerate on that heading in
the faster mid-latitude westerly flow ahead of the trough, before
turning toward the northeast around day 3 as extratropical
transition occurs and the hurricane becomes entangled with the
southern extent of the trough. Confidence in the track forecast is
fairly high for the first 72 h, and all of the dynamical guidance is
tightly clustered through this period. The model spread increases
substantially at 96 h and beyond. As a post-tropical cyclone,
Ophelia will continue to interact with the southern extent of the
trough, and should turn toward the northeast as a result of this
interaction. However, the details of this turn vary greatly from
model to model. The new NHC forecast has been nudged slightly
toward the east at this time range, closer to the UKMET and ECMWF
models, as well as the corrected consensus aids HCCA and FSSE.

While the track guidance keeps the center of Ophelia south and east
of the Azores, tropical-storm-force winds are possible throughout
the Azores by Sunday due to an approaching front. In addition, the
wind field of Ophelia will likely expand as the cyclone begins
extratropical transition,
and any deviation to the left of the
forecast track could bring stronger winds to the islands. Interests
in the Azores should refer to products issued by the Azores Weather
Forecast and Watch Center.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Ophelia is expected to transition to a hurricane-force post-
tropical cyclone by Monday when it moves near Ireland and the
United Kingdom. While post-tropical Ophelia will likely bring some
direct impacts from wind and heavy rain to portions of these areas,
as well as dangerous marine conditions, given the forecast
uncertainty at these time ranges it is too soon to determine the
exact magnitude, timing and location of the impacts. Residents in
Ireland and the United Kingdom should monitor the progress of
Ophelia for the next several days. For more information on local
impacts, residents of Ireland should refer to products issued by Met
Eireann and residents in the United Kingdom should refer to products
issued by the Met Office.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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I had to check after reading that discussion. WOW! What a trough over the Atlantic! Huge. Big 960mb storm there east of Greenland too!


Ophelia heading towards the UK. Will become ExtraTropical over the weekend.





So that's where one of the cold air mass's is. Gees.

Check out the temps at 5000'.


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Old 10-13-2017, 05:29 AM
 
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I knew was an interesting spot for a Hurricane. Interesting!


https://twitter.com/splillo/status/918588394682437632
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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If it does hit Ireland, I wonder how the folks will react.


Maybe like the motorists in parts of Dixie do when a snowflake drops.
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