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Old 04-14-2013, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Land of Red
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I believe the op has a justified observation. I too believe there are A LOT of rude people in Idaho falls. And in my 1+ yrs of living here I have attributed some, not all, of the rudeness toward and individual based on a few aspects.

1- Your liscence plate. If it says California, or some other place, your automatically a bad person. I dont know why, but it is so, as TOLD to me in some very colorfull language.

2- your religious beliefs. In my honest opion, and based on the judgments of most of my neighbors. Because I do not follow a specific religion, or any, I'm wrong, therfore so are my children. So my children are not allowed to play with thier's, and the friendly waves are no more.

Based on more then one occasion, I feel outsiders are judged and treated unfairly as such.
These are all my own opinions based on actual events. Not saying anyone here is this way.

Nonetheless, after being in the military for so long and traveling the world, this is where I decided to lay my head and raise my family. I will not let the masses determine how I live my life. I have had to pull my kids outta of school based on how they were being treated in school, and that was my choice. I grew up and lived in California for 90% of my life and I am truley glad to be out of that Hell hole, and here with the few friends I do have.
Sorry to hear you've actually had people being rude to you. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, sadly the rude ones are everywhere
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:39 AM
 
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I believe the op has a justified observation. I too believe there are A LOT of rude people in Idaho falls. And in my 1+ yrs of living here I have attributed some, not all, of the rudeness toward and individual based on a few aspects.

1- Your liscence plate. If it says California, or some other place, your automatically a bad person. I dont know why, but it is so, as TOLD to me in some very colorfull language.

2- your religious beliefs. In my honest opion, and based on the judgments of most of my neighbors. Because I do not follow a specific religion, or any, I'm wrong, therfore so are my children. So my children are not allowed to play with thier's, and the friendly waves are no more.

Based on more then one occasion, I feel outsiders are judged and treated unfairly as such.
These are all my own opinions based on actual events. Not saying anyone here is this way.

Nonetheless, after being in the military for so long and traveling the world, this is where I decided to lay my head and raise my family. I will not let the masses determine how I live my life. I have had to pull my kids outta of school based on how they were being treated in school, and that was my choice. I grew up and lived in California for 90% of my life and I am truley glad to be out of that Hell hole, and here with the few friends I do have.
Sorry you've experienced what you have TetonTank. I don't know if you're in the county or a city, not that you should be treated poorly anywhere. I think some are a little more vigorous about religion things in the Ammon city limits and some other areas.

Sunday I was at my brother's house and some friends stopped in who are quite influential in 8B. They were all talking about how many international neighbors they had in their area of 8B County. They see it as a plus. The visitors have had something like 6 foreign exchange students over the years and are now sponsoring "visiting international professionals who want to learn about alternative fuels at INL." Maybe age has something to do with it, I don't know. Don't give up - just think you haven't found those who may have a lot in common with you yet.

What I do know, is I'm proud of you! You saw a chance to make a better life for yourself and your family and you did it. That is a big accomplishment a lot of people wish they would have done what you did. I'm sure your military background helps.

What are some of your interests? Maybe some of us know others with similar interests and when they connect. Do you fish or do the fly tying thing? I think that is coming up soon, let alone the big Beer Fest in June. Or, if you like to help with community projects, like helping with the new animal shelter efforts, those are usually great ways to meet more people who have different backgrounds than perhaps some of your neighbors or others you've met.

Are you able to get what you need for your kids now? Some of us might have some suggestions, if it would help. And we also know how to be quiet when it's not our position to say anything. Every situation is different.

MSR
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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I just wanted to point out that I've been here (Ammon) since the first week of February, and everyone has been very welcoming and friendly -- from the gas station folks to the grocery store folks to my neighbors.

Thought it would take me a while to get settled in, especially moving from a very large city (Raleigh, NC), but it's been a pretty easy transition.

Now, I just need to make some friends! Hopefully I can get in on a softball league or find some people to go to Targhee Fest with or maybe get a group together for the Beer Fest
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Land of Red
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I just wanted to point out that I've been here (Ammon) since the first week of February, and everyone has been very welcoming and friendly -- from the gas station folks to the grocery store folks to my neighbors.

Thought it would take me a while to get settled in, especially moving from a very large city (Raleigh, NC), but it's been a pretty easy transition.

Now, I just need to make some friends! Hopefully I can get in on a softball league or find some people to go to Targhee Fest with or maybe get a group together for the Beer Fest
tmp4, message me, I think we have a mutual friend
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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Thank you MSR. and to answer a few of your questions I do live in Ammon and I think that was the best thing I could have done for my family to be honest I do not have the time to do with people and their judgment for myself and my family we continue to live happy and we continue to be for ourselves there's not much of a difference from when you live in a huge city and you don't know anybody to living in a small city and you don't know anybody.
now as for friends and things I like to do with common interests I have gotten together with a few more rednecks around here and I think of the best people I've met in a long time. I do have plans on going to the proclaimed Beer Fest and I also am trying to get into some softball leagues but the problem is I have a crazy work schedule that does not allow me to have much of a social life.

I am NOT saying I'm having a bad time here or the people around here are making me regret living here I will never change my decision to move your but on the same hand I was agreeing with the OP and letting her or him know that there are these issues and she is not the only one confronted by them.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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I just wanted to point out that I've been here (Ammon) since the first week of February, and everyone has been very welcoming and friendly -- from the gas station folks to the grocery store folks to my neighbors.

Thought it would take me a while to get settled in, especially moving from a very large city (Raleigh, NC), but it's been a pretty easy transition.

Now, I just need to make some friends! Hopefully I can get in on a softball league or find some people to go to Targhee Fest with or maybe get a group together for the Beer Fest
Good to hear tmp4.

You'll get lots of pals at the Beer Feat.

Check out the Chukars schedule you might find some like minded folks. Or start your own team inviting friends from here or your neighborhood.

Yes, big change in population from Raleigh to 8B County, but a fair amount of physicians have done residencies, fellowships or even the two brothers who went to Duke Medical School at the same time.

What IS similar is the above average rate of Ph.Ds in both areas.

Welcome.

MSR
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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Thank you MSR. and to answer a few of your questions I do live in Ammon and I think that was the best thing I could have done for my family to be honest I do not have the time to do with people and their judgment for myself and my family we continue to live happy and we continue to be for ourselves there's not much of a difference from when you live in a huge city and you don't know anybody to living in a small city and you don't know anybody.
now as for friends and things I like to do with common interests I have gotten together with a few more rednecks around here and I think of the best people I've met in a long time. I do have plans on going to the proclaimed Beer Fest and I also am trying to get into some softball leagues but the problem is I have a crazy work schedule that does not allow me to have much of a social life.

I am NOT saying I'm having a bad time here or the people around here are making me regret living here I will never change my decision to move your but on the same hand I was agreeing with the OP and letting her or him know that there are these issues and she is not the only one confronted by them.
TetonTank

I too have lived in big cities and not known my neighbors names. It wasn't due to any one reason except probably differing work schedules.

Anything is possible in any location. I hear you validating OP- I just feel badly as Idaho residents as. A group are accepting and friendly.

Don't be shy letting others know about your service for OUR country. You will be appreciated in ID!

Ok, sounds like you and Temp4 maybe should connect and get a softball team going for new friends. I'll let you two work that out.

Likewise, do you both have the link for the Beerfest? If you search the forum I k ow I've posted it previously. If you can't find let me know and we'll get it posted again

MSR
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:27 AM
 
Location: S.F. Bay Area, CA
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If you are not living in California any more, why concern yourself so much with California problems? Neither Idaho nor Montana is remotely similar to California, and I seriously doubt any place in either state will ever have San Francisco's problems in our lifetimes. What happens in one place does not automatically happen in another.
banjomike, I still live in California, but spend as much time as possible in the Northwest.
My Montana relatives live in the sparsely populated far north, about an hour from the Canadian border, paradoxically, in a more temperate "banana belt" zone.
There is virtually no crime, it's populated by family oriented, conservative, old fashioned, loyal Americans; in general, folks who share my I'm-responsible-for-my-own-success/failure world view.
I confess to an appreciation of the lack of 'diversity.' Having watched California destroy itself with its unsecured border, the unchecked influx of illegal aliens for which mainstream taxpayers are forced to foot the bill, I've paid my dues.
Gratefully, I don't need to work. A minimalist lifestyle and sound investments have enabled me to bail out of the overwhelmed urban Trauma Care medical profession that exists in California.
I've noticed healthcare facilities and caregivers where my MT relatives live are skillful, accessibly human, and do not appear depressed, overwhelmed and "lost," as do many of my discouraged California colleagues who feel stuck because they cannot walk away from what has become an intolerable 'entitlement mentality' situation.
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