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Old 08-21-2013, 01:09 AM
 
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Sure.
Bear in mind that I am sure not as aware of neighborhood changes, for the better or for the worse, than a good realtor. Asking them costs you nothing, and I suggest finding several from different companies. Comparing what they all say will probably give you the most accurate picture.

There are a few other things; don't forget the Avenues that connect the numbered streets. Some are longer than others, as the block sizes differ. Two canals cut through the numbered streets as well, creating cul-de-sacs and dead ends on some of the streets.

There are also subdivisions that were built later, from the 70's onward, that connect to the numbered streets but don't have numbers. These are really part of the same area of town.

There are a couple of numbered streets- 16th and 19th, that have very long interruptions caused by subdivisions that cut into them that were all built in the 60's up to the late 90's. There were many pockets of farm ground south of 17th street that were still farmed for decades while surrounded by houses on all sides. Some may remain, but almost all are gone now. This area is also divided by canals.

I once spent a full day trying to follow 19th from one end to the other. I discovered the street goes almost all the way through town from the Yellowstone Highway on the west to almost the edge of the city limits on the east with big interruptions that extend for blocks in parts of it. The street dead-ended several times, but kept going. Homes were on it from end to end.
And many # streets have one way traffic, which can be a plus.
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I agree with Banjo about talking to more than one realtor about various neighborhoods and crime. They should know; if they are reluctant to share info ask if you should contact the city or county as you want the info.

Banjo is also correct about the numbered streets. I don't tend to think of many as residential beyond 17th and Holmes or about 25th and Boulevard.

Good luck !

MSR
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Thanks! The areas I'm looking at are between 7th and 13th. And one on the "Tree Streets" (if that's what they're called )
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Thanks! The areas I'm looking at are between 7th and 13th. And one on the "Tree Streets" (if that's what they're called )
Yup. I lived on one of them. That neighborhood is older in some parts than some of the other numbered streets. It's very mixed; there are quite a few apartments, and homes that span quite a wide time period in their construction.
I particularly like the old homes that were built by Grimmett. The old man has a distinctive building style; his living rooms often have ornate plaster coved ceilings and unique tilework around fireplaces. Ceilings are often arched or timbered.
These old homes are very solidly built and mine was still as square as could be. Mine was built in 1929.
His son continued the construction quality, and his grandson, but the grandson eventually quit building houses and went to cabinet making.

But there are a lot of favorite contractors in I.F. The Grimmetts were only one of at least a half-dozen who built lots of good houses for many years, and all of them have their fans.
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:00 AM
 
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The numbered streets are not literal. It is a part of I.F. that existed, and exists, as the major residential area of the city prior to 1950. I would include this area as anywhere east of downtown, perhaps even Boulevard, to Holmes between 1st and 17th. Maybe another name shoud represent this area, such as "uptown", or even "old town".
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:17 AM
 
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The numbered streets are not literal. It is a part of I.F. that existed, and exists, as the major residential area of the city prior to 1950. I would include this area as anywhere east of downtown, perhaps even Boulevard, to Holmes between 1st and 17th. Maybe another name shoud represent this area, such as "uptown", or even "old town".
Not a bad idea, pw.
The older numbered streets mostly begin at Boulevard and end at Holmes. The newer numbered streets generally begin at Holmes and end where they will.
But the numbered streets south of 17th are generally all younger than the lower numbers.

In addition, there are the additions. The Linden Park addition is as old as the numbered streets that end at Linden Drive, and John Adams is the same age as the numbered streets that lie south of it. Some of the additions on John Adams are as old as the homes on the easterly numbered streets.

And the tree streets are as old as some of the numbered streets.

The more a person thinks about it, the more confusing it gets for someone who hasn't spent time here.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:35 AM
 
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The numbered streets are not literal. It is a part of I.F. that existed, and exists, as the major residential area of the city prior to 1950. I would include this area as anywhere east of downtown, perhaps even Boulevard, to Holmes between 1st and 17th. Maybe another name shoud represent this area, such as "uptown", or even "old town".
Excellent idea, pw, IMHO. When I talk to someone about numbered streets my head kind of shuts off at 17th. Then I have to think of the businesses on 25th street and the road.

I'm not sold on "oldtown" and while I personally like "uptown" I must admit I think of 17th street and higher numbered streets more updcale and uptown than 2-8.

Is there any reason the "tree" streets (maple, oak, birch etc) and streets between 1-16 as far east as Holmes couldn't be part of the historic district? It really isn't fair to combine so many houses that were built around Sacred Heart Hospital - later known as Community Hospital and then Parkview at 2525 S. BLVD. directly across from Tautphaus Park - and those well-cared for neighborhoods compared to 1-3 streets neighborhoods.

To be fair many people have bought homes in the lower number streets and either improved them greatly or tore down what was there and built small but nice houses. That's part of what makes it such a tough neighborhood to givr a name.

How about "Eclectic?"

MSR

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Old 08-25-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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Excellent idea, pw, IMHO. When I talk to someone about numbered streets my head kind of shuts off at 17th. Then I have to think of the businesses on 25th street and the road.

I'm not sold on "oldtown" and while I personally like "uptown" I must admit I think of 17th street and higher numbered streets more updcale and uptown than 2-8.

Is there any reason the "tree" streets (maple, oak, birch etc) and streets between 1-16 as far east as Holmes couldn't be part of the historic district? It really isn't fair to combine so many houses that were built around Sacred Heart Hospital - later known as Community Hospital and then Parkview at 2525 S. BLVD. directly across from Tautphaus Park - and those well-cared for neighborhoods compared to 1-3 streets neighborhoods.

To be fair many people have bought homes in the lower number streets and either improved them greatly or tore down what was there and built small but nice houses. That's part of what makes it such a tough neighborhood to givr a name.

How about "Eclectic?"

MSR
Eclectic is the key word, even on the tree streets. Some of the blocks there are all old houses, but 2 blocks down a street may be completely houses that are 30 years newer.
Back then as it is now, one wealthy family who built a grand home on a tree street attracted other weathy families who build their home close by. It's no different from the wealthy enclaves in any city; some are quite old, others 'middle-aged', and others are new.

There are scattered homes all through the numbered streets that pre-date streets. Homesteads began as soon as the bridge was built, and some of those early houses, which were all farm houses originally, still survive.

As a result, I think some of the tree street blocks would qualify for Heritage status while other blocks would not.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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so, I've toured seven houses thus far. there was one that I could see myself buying, three or four that had potential but were in need of a major facelift, then one or two that I wouldn't be able to take pride in unless I pumped $50K into an overhaul. the biggest disappointment is still the inconsistency of the neighbors' houses. why can't people take pride in their curb appeal???
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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Easy, because this neighborhood is made up of many different income levels. Perhaps, the old word, "gentrification" comes into play here. Though this idea of an old neighborhood becoming hip and high rent, occurs mostly in larger towns.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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Easy, because this neighborhood is made up of many different income levels. Perhaps, the old word, "gentrification" comes into play here. Though this idea of an old neighborhood becoming hip and high rent, occurs mostly in larger towns.
True. Plus as Banjo mentioned some are homes that have remained in families and others have different circumstances and/ or priorities. It is confusing to me why houses in that ares would list for similar prices, if they do, when some need so money and work. Probably why they are still on the market.


Hang in there temp4. You'll find what fits. Have you considered anything around Melaleuca Field or Skyline? There can be some great deals in Skyline and it isn't as long to downtown IF.

MSR
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