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Old 06-23-2015, 11:07 PM
 
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Idaho Falls has listed the bid for Firestone # 1. I'll be excited to get a new F.S. # 1
I have no idea of what this is or means. Please inform?
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:25 PM
 
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I have no idea of what this is or means. Please inform?
The City of Idaho Falls has finally posted the Invitation to bid notice for contractors or builders who want to submit on the new, replacement Fire Station #1 (downtown). I was happy to finally see the replacement station get to this point.

I think Chris and I posted about this probably in Development. Construction should start soon. I hope that helps

I'm getting auto - corrections after posting again. I never know. That was probably the confusing part. Machines, sometimes can make life difficult.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:33 PM
 
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The City of Idaho Falls has finally posted the Invitation to bid notice for contractors or builders who want to submit on the new, replacement Fire Station #1 (downtown). I was happy to finally see the replacement station get to this point.

I think Chris and I posted about this probably in Development. Construction should start soon. I hope that helps

I'm getting auto - corrections after posting again. I never know. That was probably the confusing part. Machines, sometimes can make life difficult.
Yup. i thought of autocorrect after I posted.
A new #1 fire station will be great. The City Hall can well use the space after the old station is emptied.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:49 PM
 
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Yup. i thought of autocorrect after I posted.
A new #1 fire station will be great. The City Hall can well use the space after the old station is emptied.
If it's still standing I have my doubts about that building..........
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:43 AM
 
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Thanks to Idaho Falls (City) Public Works and Engineering, for designing a resourceful solution for Target in Ammon. Think out of the box more often

I'm impressed with this easy solution for only $200 K vs. both the cost and slowing on 25th East if Mayor Kirkham had gotten her stoplight at Target.

Exit only south of Target. Motorists will be able to turn both directions or go east on 25th Street. Both Ammon and I.F. will pay $100K. I don't really understand why I.F. is paying half, but whatever. Apparently, the group working on intersections, from I. F. and Ammon, are working on 17th and Hitt intersection too. Sunnyside and Hitt was the first priority, then Target. This group may find some creative answers for 17th and Hitt.

How you drive on Hitt Road near Target could soon change - East Idaho News
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Old 06-24-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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Like anything in government and planning, the longer you wait to fix congestion the more expensive it gets and takes longer to finish in order to keep disruption to a minimum.

The Sunnyside Road project was a prime example of foresight and planning and the investment will soon start paying off all while keeping traffic moving and any upgrades will be minimal.

I am no engineer so I can't offer up any solutions for Hitt and 17th. It seems to me that when this area started growing in leaps and bounds, neither city wanted to cooperate with the other. Lesson learned I suppose. At this point however it seems adding additional turn lanes will end up being the only way and in a few short years the intersection will be a bigger and more congested problem.

There is still plenty of land to be developed between commercials and residential projects that could end up leading to more people living in the area and working and shopping, leading to the daytime population exploding. What road do you think all the Jackson Hole and Rexburg shoppers will take to get to Cabelas and Sand Creek Commons? Hitt Road of course!

There is not any cheap loop road alternatives any more. Local planning groups failed to preserve any land for loop roads so now if any are ever set into motion, the cost will skyrocket due to having to buy land and homes and the cost of demolition have to be included. The cost of a project like that would exceed 9 figures and probably not even accomplish a full loop road.

A cheaper alternative could be to widen Ammon Road all the way to US 20 and St Clair/Woodruff all the way to US 20 and include way finding signs to try get traffic to take alternate routes. In the end however, those roads too will end up congested.

Which leads me back to my first statement... If the cities of Idaho Falls and Ammon want the growth and the business, they need to start planning and widening roads first before it becomes too costly and disruptive.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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Like anything in government and planning, the longer you wait to fix congestion the more expensive it gets and takes longer to finish in order to keep disruption to a minimum.

The Sunnyside Road project was a prime example of foresight and planning and the investment will soon start paying off all while keeping traffic moving and any upgrades will be minimal.

I am no engineer so I can't offer up any solutions for Hitt and 17th. It seems to me that when this area started growing in leaps and bounds, neither city wanted to cooperate with the other. Lesson learned I suppose. At this point however it seems adding additional turn lanes will end up being the only way and in a few short years the intersection will be a bigger and more congested problem.

There is still plenty of land to be developed between commercials and residential projects that could end up leading to more people living in the area and working and shopping, leading to the daytime population exploding. What road do you think all the Jackson Hole and Rexburg shoppers will take to get to Cabelas and Sand Creek Commons? Hitt Road of course!

There is not any cheap loop road alternatives any more. Local planning groups failed to preserve any land for loop roads so now if any are ever set into motion, the cost will skyrocket due to having to buy land and homes and the cost of demolition have to be included. The cost of a project like that would exceed 9 figures and probably not even accomplish a full loop road.

A cheaper alternative could be to widen Ammon Road all the way to US 20 and St Clair/Woodruff all the way to US 20 and include way finding signs to try get traffic to take alternate routes. In the end however, those roads too will end up congested.

Which leads me back to my first statement... If the cities of Idaho Falls and Ammon want the growth and the business, they need to start planning and widening roads first before it becomes too costly and disruptive.
IF Guy,

You make a lot of good points here. Yes, Idaho Falls and Ammon must work together. I've seen some documents start to include Iona, I think, along with I.F. and Ammon. Would Iona be near 5K population, or would Ucon? I know Ucon's City Council has an Annexation and rezoned for > 100 Townhouse to be built. We saw covert disagreements if not some open fighting with the last administration's for each city. While Ammon has a rezoning hearing for Sandcreek Commons II, which will result in more commercial development, I hope Ammon can be as helpful while various contractors and developers get exit #116 humming with new construction and developments on both sides of I-15.. Then there is exit #113, which technically is 8B County still, I think. Ammon can keep being a strong neighbor realizing the city of Ammon gets business from many exiting at those two exists.

You are 1000 % correct that they missed out on a cheap loop option. Reasons Ammon and I.F. can't be engaged in fighting dumb battles. I do have some ideas for 17th and Hitt, and perhaps my first point will be something I.F. will need to remind Ammon that they (I.F.) designed and are paying half the costs for the Target solution. The property in Ammon at the NE corner of Hitt and 17th is for sale. Ammon should buy it. No business will do well there as customers can't get in and out. If some real estate were added there and maybe some of the EITC land for R. hand turn lanes, that would help.

I actually have seen something that would work very well for that intersection. It was created out of a very similar situation, development next to a very busy highway, bordered by residential. I should be in that area next month and will try to get some daytime pics.

BMPO, should still discuss what roads could be used for a belt toute, or if not a full belt route, then 3/4 of one. What is the best option for Ammon now? Ammon Road or something higher east? The south could use York road which goes directly to the longtime I.F./Shelley exit south of the barley plants to I-15. To me, I always think York is getting prepared for that. That would be about 6600 South, or so, in various locations.

From I-15, go North and use the existing I-20 to turn east, or stay on I-15 until north of the golf course and an exit would have to be created on basically county line road. If County Line were used, what's the best option for it to intersect with on the east? And that would be the loop, bigger than the two you mapped drew years ago. But they might as well include Ucon, Iona and Shelley too as they are all growing bedroom communities too. If they don't do a belt route then at least expansion of current roads.

Of course Skyline could be the next area to grow rapidly. There is a new plan for some west side development. So some may opt to explore the westside more.
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Old 06-25-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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Default Sharon Parry Challenger Announces Run for IFCC

Wow, I've never seen anyone declare s/he was running for City Council this early.

Michelle Zoe - Dingman will run against Sharon Parry for that City Council Seat. That is, of course, if Sharon Parry runs.

What do you think of announcing this early? Some may want to look at earlier pages where Mike and I discussed the fallout between Mayor Casper and Councilwoman Parry about the pay raises Casper gave independently. As a update to that, City Attorney Randy Fife submitted a draft of the city constitution revision. He said in the open meeting he was trying to clarify if the mayor broke the law or not. It wouldn't be a criminal law violation, more procedural. While some employees were given raises, the total being close to $90K Casper awarded on her own.

My gut says there is a group committed to get Parry out of office. She has been the lone depending vote on a few different votes, but pertaining to internal city matters.

In no way am I'm attempting to negate Michelle Ziel-Dingman. You can read more here:

BizMojo Idaho: Ziel-Dingman declares candidacy for I.F. City Council

What do you think?
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Old 07-01-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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My friend Paul Menser very neatly summed up Idaho Falls in his recent lecture to the City Club.

Paul said one of the things he most appreciates about Idaho Falls is our constant willingness to go ahead and do progressive things for our community.

He mentioned this in a historical context; Idaho Falls was the first community on the banks of the Snake to quit pumping dirty river water into our city's public water system. It cost our ancestors a lot of money to dig the deep wells, but as a progressive town, we did it first, and as a result, we have unlimited city water at a cost of $20 a month for city residents. Our electricity rates are by far the lowest in the state and in most of the nation as well. All our city services are a huge bargain in comparison to the rest of the nation.

We were also the first city to become fully electrified, the first to pass a multi- building school bond, and many other firsts. None of the other cities in S.E. Idaho have never made similar forward-thinking developments. They all waited until the needs were pressing, and they all ended up paying more taxes and bond money for their needs. Idaho Falls learned early on that getting things done early is always the cheapest way of getting them at all. And controlling them locally makes for much greater civic efficiency in operation, too.

Paul made particular mention of the selection of Idaho Falls to become the operational center for the AEC site. The site's selection was already settled, as it was originally the testing site for Naval artillery, and was a natural site for development of the test reactors for the nuclear Navy.
Blackfoot is closer by 25 miles to the site than Idaho Falls. And in 1949, U.S. 20 wasn't a paved road. It was only a graded and graveled dirt road.

But US 26 was paved from Blackfoot to Atomic City. The folks who founded Atomic City were so sure that Blackfoot was going to be the AEC center they built Atomic City entirely on speculation.

When the officials, all highly educated urban people came out, they were met with a lot of suspicion and indifference by the residents of Pocatello and Blackfoot, both towns they visited first.

But the Idaho Falls Chamber of Commerce saw the economic potential the AEC would bring, and they set about making Idaho Falls as inviting as they possibly could. C of C leaders squired the delegation through Idaho Falls and our surrounds, touting our progressive ways, and threw them several parties. They saw the new schools we had built during the middle of the Depression, all the recent improvements along the banks of the Snake, including the beautiful new Temple and the new bridge access to Sportsman's Island, and saw all the new housing that had boomed due to the construction of the Palisades Dam.

The wives of the members involved themselves, learning what all the delegate's favorite activities were. If a delegate was a symphony goer, the wife who was the hostess of a party made sure the delegate was seated next to a member of our local symphony. If a delegate loved art museums, someone from the Art Guild was invited and sat next to the person.

They were all treated to fishing trips on the south fork, and the War Bonnet rodeo was moved up that year to correspond with their visit. The mayor even put the city's road crews to work at our west boundary, making it appear we were paving as much of US 20 as we could.

That's the kind of town Idaho Falls really is and always has been. That's also why Idaho Falls has been politically conservative while at the same time been civically progressive. We don't wait for the other guy to do something first, we do it ourselves first.

And that's why Council members who drag their feet on civic progress never last for long in office. They all get elected for a term or two, and then they're gone, leaving no trace behind.
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Old 07-01-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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Mike,

I'll bet Paul M. was very good at his talk. He had published a similar view earlier on his blog when explaining Minor League Baseball had been in Idaho Falls for a 150 years. He made the point the residents of Idaho Falls have always embraced creating a better quality of life. To be very clear, he did not say Bonneville County. He said baseball adds to the quality of life here.

We have natural attractions and beauty as well as a population that values education and doing new things. It's hard to say if INL and the missions for the future are do to the workers who live here, or if lab missions influence citizen involvement in the community and wanting better things for the city. Maybe it is both, IDK.

To make sure I'm understanding you correctly, are you suggesting Sharon Parry is being challenged this early because of her voting against other council members on some things? Or was your comment just a general comment with no particular person being referenced?

Thanks for clarifying
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