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Old 11-22-2020, 01:14 AM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Slower pace is IDEAL. Same thing here.
BEEP! BEEP!
Horn honking is usually relegated to parades in Idaho.
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Old 11-22-2020, 01:33 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Horn honking is usually relegated to parades in Idaho.
Here people do that because they are always in a hurry. Got to beat the light or you aren't going fast enough.
Hopefully life in Idaho as a whole and in Pokey is slower paced and BETTER.
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Old 11-22-2020, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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You don't appear to have driven around the Washington DC area LOL. I'd rather drive in northern NJ and NYC... they all follow the same rules and once you get the hang of the rules, you can 'blend in' and be as crazy as the rest of them. Wash DC....???? All different rules... all the time... and forget snow driving LOL
Actually did drive around DC for awhile. Thankfully, not that long but on occasion I did drive from my office off GW Memorial hwy over to DC and the first time I hit that interchange over the Potomac I felt like Charlie on the MTA. But like all big cities, the traffic is not as big of a problem as just learning the best route to wher you are going. This was long before in dash (or google) nav systems.

As for NYC, the first thing a person learns is that those cab drivers are great at honking their horns, the instant the light turns green (and used to see signs about not honking a horn). However, I quickly learned if in my private vehicle, I would flip them off the minute they hit the horn. Then sit back, wait a few seconds longer, look through the rear view mirror just to see if the guy in the cab had a cardiac arrest.

One of the oddities of Idaho is if you are turning left onto a major highway, there are more times I can count, where a person turning right in the opposite direction stops and waits. They have the RIGHT OF WAY; not me, why are they waiting and why do I have to wave them on to turn? We both have a green light, right turn has the ROW.

The other is I have never lived in ANY area where people for no reason, stop at green lights. I have lived in many areas where people always run the red, but here, they like to stop for green. And I exercise my right to honk the horn.
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Old 11-22-2020, 12:18 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Actually did drive around DC for awhile. Thankfully, not that long but on occasion I did drive from my office off GW Memorial hwy over to DC and the first time I hit that interchange over the Potomac I felt like Charlie on the MTA. But like all big cities, the traffic is not as big of a problem as just learning the best route to wher you are going. This was long before in dash (or google) nav systems.

As for NYC, the first thing a person learns is that those cab drivers are great at honking their horns, the instant the light turns green (and used to see signs about not honking a horn). However, I quickly learned if in my private vehicle, I would flip them off the minute they hit the horn. Then sit back, wait a few seconds longer, look through the rear view mirror just to see if the guy in the cab had a cardiac arrest.

One of the oddities of Idaho is if you are turning left onto a major highway, there are more times I can count, where a person turning right in the opposite direction stops and waits. They have the RIGHT OF WAY; not me, why are they waiting and why do I have to wave them on to turn? We both have a green light, right turn has the ROW.

The other is I have never lived in ANY area where people for no reason, stop at green lights. I have lived in many areas where people always run the red, but here, they like to stop for green. And I exercise my right to honk the horn.
How can you see the driver anyway since they usually have black out tinted windows?
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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What part of Idaho do you come from, where it's warmer than the SE?

Tell ya what, Banjo, I'll take those kind of drivers any day over the ones that have their finger over the horn button to blast you about a millisecond after the light changes. I'm looking forward to a slower pace, for sure.
That will change after you have been the third in line a few times at a traffic light. Even psatient folks have their limits. But relatively few drivers here ignore a stoplight so completely as to go through an entire change unless they are having car troubles.

To tell the truth, most drivers here will still patiently wait for someone who's slow to pull away when the light changes. We like to be polite here when we drive, and I'm no exception. If I wait for someone today, they will wait for me tomorrow.
Today, it is someone else who's stuck at the stop light, but tomorrow, it could be me. It could be a snow drift next time, not a stop light. Paying things forward helps us all sooner or later, and it's mostly sooner than it is later.
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Old 11-23-2020, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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How can you see the driver anyway since they usually have black out tinted windows?
Not on the windshield! Or at least I never noticed and always had a great view of the driver and could even determine how red they got at times. Some I believe actually glowed.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:05 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Not on the windshield! Or at least I never noticed and always had a great view of the driver and could even determine how red they got at times. Some I believe actually glowed.
I notice that it's very difficult to see who is inside the car when they have that limo tint on the side windows. Even when looking through the windshield.
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Old 11-24-2020, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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I notice that it's very difficult to see who is inside the car when they have that limo tint on the side windows. Even when looking through the windshield.
Never had a problem for observing a driver during daylight, night, sure. Backseat, NO.
We are talking NYC and cabs....right? Most cabs I paid attention to never had a noticeable tint to the windows; Limos yes.
But never had nor do I currently have a problem seeing the driver's face in my rear view mirror during daylight hours in any State. And I can pretty much tell you the five cars behind me in each lane.
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Old 11-24-2020, 03:13 PM
 
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To tell the truth, most drivers here will still patiently wait for someone who's slow to pull away when the light changes. We like to be polite here when we drive, and I'm no exception. If I wait for someone today, they will wait for me tomorrow.
Today, it is someone else who's stuck at the stop light, but tomorrow, it could be me. It could be a snow drift next time, not a stop light. Paying things forward helps us all sooner or later, and it's mostly sooner than it is later.
That's a wonderful attitude.
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Old 12-25-2020, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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@ banjomike




That's a wonderful attitude.
It doesn't come from any special spirit of generosity or goodwill toward others.
Out here if a person becomes stuck in a snowbank, he can be the only human in the area for many hours or even days. If someone fails to stop, there may be a death overnight from exposure that's reported the next day.

Even in the middle of a city, getting stuck in your own driveway is no fun for anyone. So if you help push the other guy out, he's more likely to push you out when you need it.

Or give you a tow. Or drive you 100 miles to the closest doctor because he was going that way anyhow.

There's a lot of stuff out here that's paid forward out of self-survival.
Little things can add up to big disasters real fast at -10º below zero with a 30 mph wind blowing at 2:00 in an afternoon. One more set of hands can make all the difference in times like that.

Believe me, the generosity is optional. But in the extremes out here, no one wants anyone else to become severely injured or die because no one helped. We all need an extra hand too often.

Really, in most instances, it's no big deal. A couple of pushes and all is good. When the little stuff stays little, everyone is happier.
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