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Old 01-16-2022, 01:46 PM
 
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Extra extra. Read all about it. Idaho is the next California. Sound off the warning bells. I believe the country will ultimately become unaffordable to the middle and low income classes. It’s a matter of time. What will America look like in 5 to 10 years?:

Rich folks with fat wallets and big homes. Middle class folks with not enough income and living in shacks, mobile homes, and studio apts. Low income folks with a couple of dollars for pizza, a hotdog, and a cheap prepaid cell phone while living at the Union gospel mission homeless shelter. That’s the new America. Thank your fellow Americans for it. They love you.


https://www.kpvi.com/news/local_news...98cc42ffb.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ida...89908.amp.html

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2021/07/...dable-housing/
Idaho will never become another California.

There are two entirely different lifestyles in both states, and neither will ever change very much.

The reason why Idaho became a hot spot is due to the factors your links all mentioned. Every one of them displayed as much trouble as benefit to living here.

Idaho had far too many of her people earning only the minimum wage to be able to afford a home for many decades.

There was so little job opportunity that provided higher wages that those Idahoans who could do the good jobs didn't stay here; they left and went to California (or other states), where they would get the pay for their performance.

Many of them kept their homes here and would go to work elsewhere and come back when the work ended or slacked.
I did that myself twice, and know dozens of others who did.

It went on all my life here. It's still happening. Since Idaho hasn't paid our best teachers what they deserve for so long, many of them have left. Leaving only the poorest teachers behind to teach our kids.

Idaho has the highest drop-out rate and the lowest number of college graduates. That's been going on for so long it has become self-perpetuating.

Every departure created an empty house that was mighty cheap. Building a new house was relatively cheap when contractors were willing to accept low pay just to stay working.

Idaho had plenty of the right conditions to grow, so it grew. Nobody ever came here because they wanted to buy a more expensive house. They all came looking to buy a bigger house for the same money they had after they sold their former little home in California.

For a retiree, that was a big deal. Retirees were some of the first arrivals that started the influx over 35 years ago. Nowadays, all those big McMansions are being sold because those folks now need smaller houses.

Nowadays, everything that began in the last century has slid up the scale drastically, but the same problems that were here then are still here now, and making themselves more obvious.

You just came to the dance too late. The waltz is nearly over.

But hang around here for about 20 or 30 years, and the the dance will begin again. It always does.

That's the way life in Idaho is; life here is always fits and starts. Change always comes late here, and once it starts it always goes on longer than in other places. And then everything stops for a long time, and re-adjusts to the changes. And then it all happens again.

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Old 01-16-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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Idaho will never become another California.

There are two entirely different lifestyles in both states, and neither will ever change very much.

The reason why Idaho became a hot spot is due to the factors your links all mentioned. Every one of them displayed as much trouble as benefit to living here.

Idaho had far too many of her people earning only the minimum wage to be able to afford a home for many decades.

There was so little job opportunity that provided higher wages that those Idahoans who could do the good jobs didn't stay here; they left and went to California (or other states), where they would get the pay for their performance.

Many of them kept their homes here and would go to work elsewhere and come back when the work ended or slacked.
I did that myself twice, and know dozens of others who did.

It went on all my life here. It's still happening. Since Idaho hasn't paid our best teachers what they deserve for so long, many of them have left. Leaving only the poorest teachers behind to teach our kids.

Idaho has the highest drop-out rate and the lowest number of college graduates. That's been going on for so long it has become self-perpetuating.

Every departure created an empty house that was mighty cheap. Building a new house was relatively cheap when contractors were willing to accept low pay just to stay working.

Idaho had plenty of the right conditions to grow, so it grew. Nobody ever came here because they wanted to buy a more expensive house. They all came looking to buy a bigger house for the same money they had after they sold their former little home in California.

For a retiree, that was a big deal. Retirees were some of the first arrivals that started the influx over 35 years ago. Nowadays, all those big McMansions are being sold because those folks now need smaller houses.

Nowadays, everything that began in the last century has slid up the scale drastically, but the same problems that were here then are still here now, and making themselves more obvious.

You just came to the dance too late. The waltz is nearly over.

But hang around here for about 20 or 30 years, and the the dance will begin again. It always does.

That's the way life in Idaho is; life here is always fits and starts. Change always comes late here, and once it starts it always goes on longer than in other places. And then everything stops for a long time, and re-adjusts to the changes. And then it all happens again.
Well said! I couldn't have said it any better.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:08 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Nobody it appears has mentioned inflation is at its highest rate in about 40 years. This a major factor why housing prices are rising. Also more are working from home these days which also increases prices. California or Washington or Oregon are just a small part of increasing prices. Stop blaming out of staters for natural increases.
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Old 01-17-2022, 04:22 AM
 
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Nobody it appears has mentioned inflation is at its highest rate in about 40 years. This a major factor why housing prices are rising. Also more are working from home these days which also increases prices. California or Washington or Oregon are just a small part of increasing prices. Stop blaming out of staters for natural increases.
The housing market soared long before the inflation climbed. Housing began its ascent during 2020, whereas the inflation took off in 2021.
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Old 01-17-2022, 06:12 AM
 
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It’s the same thing over and over again. Rich Californians come. Housing costs soar. Said city becomes unaffordable. Homeless population explodes. All the subsudized housing goes to folks here illegally. Veterans stay outside in the cold. Greedy landlords and money worshipping developers continue to cater to Californians. Case closed. These are your fellow Americans and they love you.
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:22 AM
 
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Nobody it appears has mentioned inflation is at its highest rate in about 40 years. This a major factor why housing prices are rising. Also more are working from home these days which also increases prices. California or Washington or Oregon are just a small part of increasing prices. Stop blaming out of staters for natural increases.
It’s no coincidence that as soon as the Californian invasion begun out west,….Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Boise, Bend, Missoula, White Fish, Coeur d’Alene all became unaffordable overnight…..and surprisingly turned a deep blue color as well.
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:54 AM
 
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The housing market soared long before the inflation climbed. Housing began its ascent during 2020, whereas the inflation took off in 2021.
Inflation and high housing costs are the result of stimulus measures and low interest rates from the fed. Rates will rise again in an attempt to correct the current issue.
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Old 01-17-2022, 04:12 PM
 
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Inflation and high housing costs are the result of stimulus measures and low interest rates from the fed. Rates will rise again in an attempt to correct the current issue.
I saw the stimulus measure as over the top. Perhaps the first with the initial two weeks, behind that was simply dumb!
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Old 01-17-2022, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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It’s no coincidence that as soon as the Californian invasion begun out west,….Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Boise, Bend, Missoula, White Fish, Coeur d’Alene all became unaffordable overnight…..and surprisingly turned a deep blue color as well.
Can't speak to the others, but Coeur d'Alene is nowhere near "deep blue". If anything, it is becoming more solid red.
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