Lewiston or Moscow? (sales, insurance, hotel)

[zebco]

I actually liked Lewiston when I visited last year. Felt like a place I could live. Maybe I'm just different. I also thought Butte, MT had a bit of "charm" and "character" and kind of liked it also.

[dcisive]

I like Butte fine but that toxic Berkeley Mine Pit scares the heck out of me it's so dangerous. I can't believe it's not leaching some nasty toxins into the ground and potentially the water. I also can't believe the government hasn't made a point of draining that bad boy once and for all. It's a real carbuncle on the city to say the least. Without that Butte could be a very interesting place to hang out

[zebco]

Originally Posted by dcisive

I like Butte fine but that toxic Berkeley Mine Pit scares the heck out of me it's so dangerous. I can't believe it's not leaching some nasty toxins into the ground and potentially the water. I also can't believe the government hasn't made a point of draining that bad boy once and for all. It's a real carbuncle on the city to say the least. Without that Butte could be a very interesting place to hang out

It is a mess indeed. But overall, Butte stood out to me more than, say, Bozeman or Billings. Those two just seemed rather bland to me (Not the scenery, just the towns). Seems to be so much history in Butte.

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by Syringaloid

Yeah lol. Comparing Moscow to Los Angeles seems like a silly comparison [mod cut]

Moscow's original name was either Hog Heaven or Hog Haven; the name varies in old records.

Once the city became a contender for the University of Idaho's home city, the city fathers decided their home town needed a more attractive name. (As the legend goes. Re-naming cities happened all over Idaho for mostly this reason.)

Since it was fashionable just then to re-name cities for cities in far-off exotic places like Cairo, Paris, Belgrade, Vienna, Valpariso, etc., they chose Moscow.

The name had no Communist associations to it then. Those associations were 30 years in the future.

Even so, the citizens have always pronounced the name of their home town differently from the name of the Russian capital.

Here, it is pronounced Mosco.
Drop the w when you say it, and you will have it right. There's no cow in Moscow, Idaho.

[Syringaloid]

Originally Posted by banjomike

Moscow's original name was either Hog Heaven or Hog Haven; the name varies in old records.

Once the city became a contender for the University of Idaho's home city, the city fathers decided their home town needed a more attractive name. (As the legend goes. Re-naming cities happened all over Idaho for mostly this reason.)

Since it was fashionable just then to re-name cities for cities in far-off exotic places like Cairo, Paris, Belgrade, Vienna, Valpariso, etc., they chose Moscow.

The name had no Communist associations to it then. Those associations were 30 years in the future.

Even so, the citizens have always pronounced the name of their home town differently from the name of the Russian capital.

Here, it is pronounced Mosco.
Drop the w when you say it, and you will have it right. There's no cow in Moscow, Idaho.

Thanks for the explanation, but I was referring to something completely different....a few comments on the previous page of this thread.

[Mister Torgue]

Originally Posted by banjomike

Moscow's original name was either Hog Heaven or Hog Haven; the name varies in old records.

Once the city became a contender for the University of Idaho's home city, the city fathers decided their home town needed a more attractive name. (As the legend goes. Re-naming cities happened all over Idaho for mostly this reason.)

Since it was fashionable just then to re-name cities for cities in far-off exotic places like Cairo, Paris, Belgrade, Vienna, Valpariso, etc., they chose Moscow.

The name had no Communist associations to it then. Those associations were 30 years in the future.

Even so, the citizens have always pronounced the name of their home town differently from the name of the Russian capital.

Here, it is pronounced Mosco.
Drop the w when you say it, and you will have it right. There's no cow in Moscow, Idaho.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to banjomike again.

[Heron31]

Originally Posted by banjomike

...The name had no Communist associations to it then. Even so, the citizens have always pronounced the name of their home town differently from the name of the Russian capital.
Here, it is pronounced Mosco.
Drop the w when you say it, and you will have it right. There's no cow in Moscow, Idaho.

Good to know!

[banjomike]

While the location of the university was a state decision, the requirement for a public university was a mandate of the Land Grant Act. Idaho had to have one before it was granted statehood.

The Land Grant funds, however were released just before statehood, so the Federal government knew the U of I construction had begun.

One requirement that came with the money was a mandated establishment of an Army training unit (the name of the unit varied over time; the last name was ROTC), to provide young men into the Army's officer corps.
When I attended the U of I in 1962, all freshmen and sophomores were required to join either the Army or Air Force's units. The Navy required a 4-year commitment and an enlistment, but provided financial aid. The other 2 did not.
We all were issued uniforms and had to go to military training several times a month, held in the evenings after regular classes had ended. The combined units had a Spring Revue where they all assembled in the late spring, and newly-commissioned officers were sworn in in front of the combined units. It filled the football field.

When the states depended on private wealthy individuals to form units for the Civil War, the training could be so bad that entire corps were killed in only one battle.
Other privately formed units had very good training, but good or bad, the officers were all expected to lead in the front, so they were most often the first to die.

The Army realized private recruitment had to be done away with. The Federal Army needed to have uniform training that was effective, and it needed to have officers who were promoted for skill and experience, not from purchasing their leadership.
This demanded a larger number of young, new officers than could be provided by private colleges.

The U of I isn't Idaho's first or oldest college. There were at least 2 private colleges that were well established before we became a state. One is still here- the College of Idaho, in Caldwell. I don't know anything about the others except for Albion College.
It closed and the students were transferred to the then-new public college that became Idaho State University.

Its first name was The University of Idaho, Southern Branch. As I recall- ISU had 5 different names.

My maternal grandmother was the only student who attended ISU under all 5.
She first enrolled in 1916, part-time, as she was already employed as a teacher. A semester at a time, with long periods where life got in the way in between. She finally earned her degree in 1969.
By the time she graduated, she had already taught herself Spanish so she could teach migrant kids English as a volunteer teacher.

...and that's why I learned to read at the age of 3. By the time I was born, she had been teaching little kids how to read for 30 years, and by then, I was her only student.
She taught my mother to read at the same age earlier, and lived to teach my daughter at that age later.

[the hudge]

Hog Heaven then Paradise then Moscow. The local masonic lodge bares the name Paradise as does a creek and at least one semi-local business. There is also at least one local business that goes by Hog Heaven.



Moscow is a very pretty town whereas Lewiston has personalty. They are very different in climate, politics and visuals.


Happy New Year to all.

[pnwguy2]

I lived in both Moscow and Lewiston, granted a few decades ago. Though both have not changed greatly since.

Moscow is pure and simple a University town. Lewiston is more of an industrial town. Moscow has a cool, but modest downtown and wins in that category. Lewiston has a better climate, warmer year round.

It is kind of a toss up depending on what you are looking for.