04-28-2015, 07:56 AM
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ram2
In South Dakota, the maximum legal speed is 80. The minimum legal speed is 40. How is driving 55 a problem?
The accident wasn't in South Dakota. Somehow you seem to think SD laws are implacable in Idaho. Motorists in Idaho must follow Idaho law.
This subject was discussed in depth in earlier places. Please feel free to read them.
Thank you for illustrating my point perfectly. You seem to have made assumptions about Idaho being identical to SD. As I wrote earlier, different laws for different states.
Idaho's maximum speed, where allowed is also 80 mph for cars. Trucks have a lower speed limit. Feel free to search for the accurate facts yourself. I don't need to post what was posted much earlier here.
As a friendly tip, I'd suggest you read the thread prior to posting and/or research this information yourself online. This is an Idaho thread, not a national one or South Dakota one.
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04-28-2015, 08:12 AM
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What is the freeway minimum speed limit in Idaho?
04-28-2015, 09:49 AM
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Mtn. States Resident
MSR...I'm reading that post and I do not see where the guy was doing 55 mph.
"On April 24, 2015, at 3:57 p.m., Idaho State Police investigated an injury crash southbound on I15 at mile marker 103, near the Blackfoot Rest Area.
Jesus Garcia-Moreno, 55, of Enumclaw, WA, was driving southbound on I15 in a 1994 Nissan Sentra
at a low rate of speed . Brad Ralphs, 60, of Rockland, ID, was behind Garcia-Moreno in a 2013 Kentworth semi, hauling potatoes. Ralphs attempted to swerve right to avoid a collision, but struck the rear of Garcia-Moreno's vehicle. Garcia-Moreno went off the left shoulder and Ralphs' truck overturned on its side, blocking traffic. The southbound lanes were blocked for approximately three hours.
Both drivers were wearing seatbelts and alcohol was involved.
Garcia-Moreno was transported by ground ambulance to Eastern Idaho Regional Medical Center in Idaho Falls.
The crash is under investigation by the Idaho State Police."
04-28-2015, 09:58 AM
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ram2
What is the freeway minimum speed limit in Idaho?
Can't say I have ever seen a minimum posted on the interstate, but honestly, I would not pay attention to it since I don't drive the minimum on an interstate; but I do watch out for slower drivers. They are not unique to ID!!!!!
TITLE 49
MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 6
RULES OF THE ROAD
49-655. MINIMUM SPEED REGULATION. No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to
impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with the law. (Emphasis added by me.)
Wow; not an attorney, but know plenty, and I have spent the night in a Holiday Inn Express at times.
But that statement is really ambiguous. I guess
IF THE driver of the car , was under the influence of alcohol
(I am NOT SAYING HE WAS) ), then that, and the fact he was driving slower than posted limit; could make a case for the truck driver. I can see this will probably end up in court.
04-28-2015, 10:52 AM
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MSR...I'm reading that post and I do not see where the guy was doing 55 mph.at a low rate of speed . Brad Ralphs, 60, of Rockland, ID, was behind Garcia-Moreno in a 2013 Kentworth semi, hauling potatoes. Ralphs attempted to swerve right to avoid a collision, but struck the rear of Garcia-Moreno's vehicle. Garcia-Moreno went off the left shoulder and Ralphs' truck overturned on its side, blocking traffic. The southbound lanes were blocked for approximately three hours.
You are correct. My source for that was a small paper that is close to where the accident happened. However, I rarely read that newspaper and I made a decision not to include it as a source simply because my gut didn't feel right about it. I can easily see how the age of the WA man got written in the wrong place. Glad I found the ISP blogspot instead.
There is nothing *official* about the speed of either vehicle in the ISP report. I apologize for my error. There is no proof the WA man was even traveling at 55 mph.
I agree f5, I think this will become a legal case soon, if it hasn't already.
More reasons for all to be cautious during the months many tourists are on the road.
MSR
04-28-2015, 12:10 PM
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NO problem.
I would guess speed of the vehicle hit could be hard to guess within 10 mph. But, not a accident investigator so not sure.
As for tourists! As someone who lived in Moab for six years, and only accidents I had were with big boulders on some serious, well known, off-road trails, I know about tourists and how to dodge them.
04-29-2015, 09:17 AM
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Update on accident...
05-04-2015, 12:25 AM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Mtn. States Resident
Quote:
Jesus Garcia-Moreno, 55, of Enumclaw, WA, was driving southbound on I15 in a 1994 Nissan Sentra at a low rate of speed. Brad Ralphs, 60, of Rockland, ID, was behind Garcia-Moreno in a 2013 Kentworth semi, hauling potatoes. Ralphs attempted to swerve right to avoid a collision, but struck the rear of Garcia-Moreno's vehicle. Garcia-Moreno went off the left shoulder and Ralphs' truck overturned on its side, blocking traffic. The southbound lanes were blocked for approximately three hours.
OK, I'm blind then. Please highlight the part where it says he was traveling 55 mph. Maybe we are reading it in a different language. I'm still reading that he was traveling "at a low rate of speed", nothing about 55 mph.
05-04-2015, 11:48 AM
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KaaBoom
Please read post 86 and continue to your post.
I don't plan on revisiting this accident unless there is a lawsuit or something different. There are multiple sources for this real life accident. Early pages in this thread discussed the likeliness of this happening. Now it has. It was important to post this real case so drivers could see what happened when a car was driving too slow in an 80 mph zone.
MSR
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Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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