On Our Way To Idaho - Last Week in California (Boise: fit in, buying)

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Ironic. 30 years ago, Idaho was a Democrat-leaning state. Especially the five northern counties! Democrats represented every publicly-held office up until the mid 1990s. They were populist Democrats, but Democrats still !

The city of Coeur d'Alene had a member of the Socialist Party serve as mayor (John T. Wood) early in its history. Very few American cities can claim something like that!

Idaho was indeed a "red" state, but not in the sense you're probably thinking.

Yup. I may be considered to be a liberal here, but whenever I visit some other state, I'm always reminded how conservative I am in comparison to what I see all around me.

In my own view, I'm moderately liberal, but about as centrist as it gets, and I'm a registered Republican.
However, if the Democrats ever demand a closed primary, I may have to think it over. I would probably go independent if they did, because i always vote for the person, not the party.

Idaho is conservative by nature, literally. If you aren't conservative, you won't put an old blanket in the trunk of your car after the first snowstorm. Where we live determines who we are.

For many decades, Idaho had a pretty good party balance. Republican governors got a Democratic House, and vice versa. This kept the fluff and nonsense out of the yearly sessions, and important things got accomplished. As an optimist, I'm sure there will be a return to this in it's own good time.

[Syringaloid]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

SierraDon,

Be sure not to let your cats out of your sight in Idaho. Whatever you do, DO NOT let them roam outdoors!

Some beligerent, cat-hating redneck will probably try to shoot the poor thing and think himself "funny" or worse, "noble" for having done so.

Back in 2003, two little d-bag teenagers in Post Falls doused and set fire to someone's pet cat thinking it was "funny" to watch the animal run away while burning alive. When his owners found him, it was too late. The vet could not save him from the severe burns to his body. It was pretty awful and made news all the way over to Seattle.

Welcome to fabulous, animal-hating, Shoot-Anything-That-Moves Idaho!

This person again lol.





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[sfilbert]

You are so lucky. I'm in California and my husband is driving me crazy about moving to Idaho. Can I ask what city you moved to?

[northbayeric]

Originally Posted by KeepIdahoWonderful

Will this ever end? I'm not sure what you people are expecting. California must be a terrible place to live for all of the people leaving to over-fill this beautiful state and destroy it. It breaks my heart that you are all bringing more people to Idaho. So where, I wonder, are all the Idahoans suppose to move to since are state has been paved over by outsiders. I know this has been an issue since the 70s though since the 90s so many people have moved here I can't recognize my home anymore. None of you get it. With so many of you flooding into our state you are destroying the very things you are moving here for. IF you want to live in a big city then stay in California. I wish I was articulate enough to express the pain and frustration you are causing generations of Idaho families who just want to be left in peace. It's not right. And all the people on here claiming to be Idahoans and welcoming more Californians into the state are people who moved here a few years ago from California and now think they are Idahoans. Californians make me sick. The one I work with thinks he is Idahoan because he moved here in 92 and to listen to him talk about how "backwards" Idaho is and uses terrible language to generalize and stereotype Idahoans from "Caldwell". Get out! Go home! A lot of Idaho is poor and simple people who live simple, but good lives. Some of us like to drive old trucks. You people don't have the first clue of what it means to live in Idaho. You never will because you did not grow up here. It comes down to gentrification, something I thought only happened in big cities. There is a small California business woman in my town who wants to turn the city where I live into an "art colony". An art Colony? WTF? I guess it doesn't matter that there are real Idahoans that have been living and doing business there for years. She doesn't care. I grew up in Meridian Idaho and at the time it was a farming community. Now we call it little California because it is nothing but miles and miles of subdivisions and housing tracks with huge high school campuses that are out of story books. I use to work in a hospital and 99% of my patients were from California and they almost all would say something like “its so wonderful here it reminds me of such and such valley I grew up in California in the 70s. Well great! So is a couple of decades Idaho will be just another California. You will have to make reservations 3 years in advance to go camping. Hunting will be impossible. Californians are too selfish to understand this problem. I can just here all of the responses now.

I do appreciate your sentiments and concerns, but just within the last couple of days of forum posts we've seen an awful lot of generalizations and stereotyping in both directions. "Animal-hating, shoot-anything-that-moves Idaho." Your co-worker bad-mouths Idaho as being "backwards"; therefore, all 39 million Californians feel the same way. Look at it this way: Imagine how overrun Idaho would be with Californians if most of them didn't think Idaho was "backwards." Speaking at least for myself, my wife, and I daresay many others who live in California who really do think it's become a terrible place, we would never want to bring California's worst attributes with us to Idaho, should we ever be blessed to be able to relocate there. The way my wife and I feel about California, I really think neither one of us would have any kind of nostalgia for it should we be able to relocate to the panhandle in a few more years.

Well, what about the weather? It snows in Idaho, and the panhandle is gloomy in the winter.

The one thing my wife has repeatedly said to me is that she'd love to live in a climate "where Thanksgiving feels like Thanksgiving, and Christmas feels like Christmas." In other words, not where Christmas Day is sunny, a high of 60 degrees, and no rain in the 10-day forecast. We visited the Silver Valley east of Coeur d'Alene this past November (our fourth visit to the area since September 2011), the weather was gray, temperatures were in the 30s and 40s, it was starting to snow on Lookout Pass, and we loved every moment of it! Other Californians can call us crazy, but a 4-season climate (minus the howling winter winds and spring severe thunderstorms and occasional tornadoes from my native Midwest) sounds great.

Without getting too long-winded, if you're speaking about Californians in a cumulative sense, then you're right to feel sick. In fact, if you didn't, I'd be a bit suspicious of you. But please know that my wife, myself and many others who currently live in California have no desire to desecrate "old Mother Idaho" as Banjomike puts it. Right now Mrs. Eric and I hope to eventually relocate to either Bonners Ferry or Wallace. The latter town has been losing population since the 1960s. Bonners Ferry has been growing, but slowly.

To the O.P. of this thread: I wish you the very, very best, and much happiness as an ex-California resident!

[northbayeric]

Originally Posted by Teufelshund20

I'm in Valley Center CA, (North San Diego) and I am so ready to get the hell out of here. If Gaven Newsome becomes Governor, I feel sorry for all the law abiding gun owners. Hopefully I can sell my house and be in North Idaho by the winter.

This would be in January 2019. A Gavin Newsom win, barring a "road to Damascus" miracle, would have terrible ramifications for not only them, but for many Christian churches and parishes in CA as well. But enough about California. Let's just get you up to North Idaho and....

Welcome to Idaho. When you get here, be an Idahoan, not an ex-Californian. Leave that state behind and enjoy the bounties and culture of our state. Do that and you'll fit right in.

This is outstanding advice for all of us who want to leave California! We do want to assimilate.

[Amper5and]

Now that I am here, I can certainly understand the desire to keep Idaho our little secret heaven, but the secret is leaking out. It is just too darn nice here.

I arrived here exactly 20 years ago with a batch of new outsiders buying a lots in a ranch subdivision. Instead of buying a lot, I bought a 100 year old homestead in town. The local's got scared of the influx and the town's people became very much against any change. The locals even prevented any development of internet and cell phone service. They did everything possible to drive away local prosperity.

This past November, we had 80% voter turnout when we finally threw the anti-change government out of office, supported largely by the old multi-generational families that didn't want to see the town die.

We have to face the fact that Idaho has something for everyone and somewhere in Idaho is the perfect place for anyone. I don't have a snow shovel. I don't have winter. I don't have rain. I have hot, very hot. I have sun. I have unlimited water. I have an unbelievable garden. I don't have building permits. I don't have zoning restrictions. I have the freedom to use my land as I like. I am at the bottom of the second deepest river gorge in N. America (the deepest is Hell's Canyon, about ten miles from here). In the winter, it is a short drive to "visit" snow but I don't have to live with it. It was 97 degrees here last week.

North Idaho is quite "libertarian", Boise and Moscow are young and more liberal, southern Idaho is more "orderly" due to the Mormon control. If you want freedom, go to North Idaho. If you really want freedom, go to Idaho County.

[Teufelshund20]

Originally Posted by northbayeric

This would be in January 2019. A Gavin Newsom win, barring a "road to Damascus" miracle, would have terrible ramifications for not only them, but for many Christian churches and parishes in CA as well. But enough about California. Let's just get you up to North Idaho and....



This is outstanding advice for all of us who want to leave California! We do want to assimilate.

Luckily I'm not a native from CA. I was a military brat and then joined myself. Having served 20 years and been around the world, I'm a free agent so to speak. I just want some sanity and quietness. I also want to live in a place where every piece of bare land is not being turn into housing complexes.

[RESQRK]

Reading all these posts can't make the next month go by fast enough! 1 July we are leaving the Republic of Californiastan also. We have spent the past 3 summers in Northern Idaho and have purchased our little slice of heaven.

For those locals that are worried about "Us Types" never fear, we want the same thing, space, peace, and a quiet existence. Look forward to slowing down and spending my days enjoying the 4 seasons, working my own garden, fishing, hunting and getting along with my neighbors.

Hopefully the transition will go smooth and as soon as the California plates are gone you'll never know we were there.

Looking forward to being a part of your great state and blending in.

[509]

Originally Posted by northbayeric

...........The one thing my wife has repeatedly said to me is that she'd love to live in a climate "where Thanksgiving feels like Thanksgiving, and Christmas feels like Christmas." In other words, not where Christmas Day is sunny, a high of 60 degrees, and no rain in the 10-day forecast..........

It was 59 degrees on Christmas Day in Coeur d'Alene in 1979.

[folkguitarist555]

Idaho...the new California.