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Old 11-05-2007, 02:04 PM
 
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It is only a matter of time before State Laws will be passed requiring all employers to verify the immigration status of all employees. (like Arizona in 2008) This will be interesting. In States like Arizona, almost ten percent of employees are not eligible to work in the United States. Unless the laws are ignored there will be mass firings.

Now you have hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens without jobs and hardly a dime to their name. In theory they would all go back to their own country but many have been here for years and would not have the resources to make it back to their home country/town.

Only two REAL OPTIONS are available to them if they stay here illegally. Making an attempt in the underground economy- which has limited opportunities, or going into a world of crime.

Maybe immigration enforcement has some unintended consequences. I have never seen a real honest discussion about what to do about the illegal aliens after they are fired in mass due to a new State law cracking down on employers.

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Old 11-05-2007, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Surely there are other options than the two you propose?
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:35 PM
 
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deport..the follow and enforce the laws that were ignored which is what got us into this mess in the first place....
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Deportation through enforcement of current law...what a concept.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:41 PM
 
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Deportation of 20 millions illegals is not a real option.

I would like to know what we do with the newly unemployed illegals. (resulting from the new laws that crack down on the employment of the illegal aliens. ) All discussion of the topic of illegal immigration needs to end until we solve this question.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Might make it easier to round them up in mass and deport them in mass.. That is why states have a national guard and why we have a military. If they riot or become violent all the more reason to get rid of them. If they are killed or injured due to their lawlessness so be it. By acting that way would simply prove what legal americans have been saying all along.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Deportation of 20 millions illegals is not a real option.

I would like to know what we do with the newly unemployed illegals. (resulting from the new laws that crack down on the employment of the illegal aliens. ) All discussion of the topic of illegal immigration needs to end until we solve this question.
No job, no more free handouts, no free public education, no healthcare that is not emergency related, no more free ride into this country for their anchor babies on the back of Black America (14th Amendment abuse)--No reason to stick around.

All 20 million of them are not going to turn to crime to stay here. If it is as all the pro-illegal folks would have us believe, then these are just kind, gentle, hard working people who come here to work, so they will pack up their overnight bags and go home.

We all know that there is a segment of the illegal alien population already committing crime in this country. I find it hard to believe that you really think that all 20 million of them are going to turn to outright lawlessness in order to stay in a place where they will always be forced to live an underground existence. (I don't want to hear that they already do. Illegals in California are blatantly in your face.)
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:05 PM
 
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Deportation of 20 millions illegals is not a real option.

I would like to know what we do with the newly unemployed illegals. (resulting from the new laws that crack down on the employment of the illegal aliens. ) All discussion of the topic of illegal immigration needs to end until we solve this question.
What to do with them? Give them a bus ticket home. Why are we even discussing this? Tell them the gig is up. If they have been in the US illegally for years, that is all the more reason to send them home. Do you think for one second any of them worried about imposing hardship on the American people by having anchor babies and skipping out on the bill, filling our ERs, overunning our schools with kids who require very expensive special services when they came to our country illegally ? I don't think so.
Determine which countries are the worst offenders as far as having their citizens in our country illegally and tell them this: if we find we do need X number of unskilled laborers after we have matched available Americans with a job, they will not come from your country. The world is awash in unskilled labor and there is no reason they need to come from countries that have done nothing but take advantage of the US for decades. People from Laos, Bulgaria, Nigeria or any number of other places would probably welcome a chance for a temporary work visa in the US.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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IMO, we do not need to "deport" 20 million illegals

A) Make it next to impossible to get a job if you are illegal

B) Take away all but ESSENTIAL emergency (life threatening) medical services

C) Take away all welfare benifits that illegals or their immediate family are recieveing

D) Get rid of the "anchor baby" law

E) No bank accounts if one is here illegally

F) No Drivers license if one is here illegally

G) Allow landlords the right to refuse to those here illegally

In other words, make it untenable to be in this country illegally - by doing so MANY will return to their country of origin (or elsewhere) on their own -

Deport those who do not go
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Pa
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IMO, we do not need to "deport" 20 million illegals

A) Make it next to impossible to get a job if you are illegal

B) Take away all but ESSENTIAL emergency (life threatening) medical services

C) Take away all welfare benifits that illegals or their immediate family are recieveing

D) Get rid of the "anchor baby" law

E) No bank accounts if one is here illegally

F) No Drivers license if one is here illegally

G) Allow landlords the right to refuse to those here illegally

In other words, make it untenable to be in this country illegally - by doing so MANY will return to their country of origin (or elsewhere) on their own -

Deport those who do not go
Great post
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