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Old 12-25-2010, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Thank you.

And that's why I say these polls and surveys don't mean a damn thing with an issue as serious as this. When you think about what you and I just said, the first thing that comes to my mind is, "It's just a poll ..." which means why are we using polls to justify The Dream Act? It almost seems very amateur and petty to even consider such a poll and to hear the President refer to it in his post-vote statement about The Dream Act.
These online poll are not Official and can not be use as legal statistics.

They can also easily be rigged up by the webmaster of that site
So anyone with common sense should know that online poll shouldn't be taken literally. .
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:16 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Links to these polls?
Google Gallup dream act

Google Rasmussen Dream Act

Both appear.

That googling is hard isn't it.
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Google Gallup dream act

Google Rasmussen Dream Act

Both appear.

That googling is hard isn't it.
Apparently it must be as you've asked me to "cite examples" LOL
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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These online poll are not Official and can not be use as legal statistics.

They can also easily be rigged up by the webmaster of that site
So anyone with common sense should know that online poll shouldn't be taken literally. .
Please...The votes were there. Well over 50 votes in the Senate after it passed in the house. It was blocked by a Repub filbuster.

So the public will, the votes, everything. Blocked by the Repubs.

Perfectly legal and above board...but don't try to wrap minority blocks into a righteous position...it was not.

These were not on line polls by the way. Carefully constructed and hopefully statistically valid. Though I would have little doubt that Rasmussen used a sample that favored the Repubs. They always do...
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Please...The votes were there. Well over 50 votes in the Senate after it passed in the house. It was blocked by a Repub filbuster.

So the public will, the votes, everything. Blocked by the Repubs.

Perfectly legal and above board...but don't try to wrap minority blocks into a righteous position...it was not.

These were not on line polls by the way. Carefully constructed and hopefully statistically valid. Though I would have little doubt that Rasmussen used a sample that favored the Repubs. They always do...
Perfectly legal except for the part about everyone who gains from this law is illegal right?
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Perfectly legal except for the part about everyone who gains from this law is illegal right?
Nope. On passage of the bill they become legal. Just got rid of a few percent of the illegal problem...and cheap.

Couple of similar more global actions and the whole thing is gone.
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:47 PM
 
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Nope. On passage of the bill they become legal. Just got rid of a few percent of the illegal problem...and cheap.

Couple of similar more global actions and the whole thing is gone.
Are you feeling ok?
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Are you feeling ok?
You don't understand that, at this point, the only obvious fix for the illegal problem is to legalize them?

The DREAM Act only takes care of a limited set of the most deserving...We still have the other millions to deal with.
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Pa
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You don't understand that, at this point, the only obvious fix for the illegal problem is to legalize them?

The DREAM Act only takes care of a limited set of the most deserving...We still have the other millions to deal with.
We tried that in 1986. How did that work out???
Or we can crack down on illegals and force them to self deport as we have seen happen in cities and states who have cracked down on illegals.
The most deserving? Deserving would indicate that they have done something to earn special considerations or rewards.
Just what have these illegals done that has earned them a reward?
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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