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Old 04-23-2011, 07:55 AM
 
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Ruben Vives, Former Illegal Immigrant, Wins Pulitzer for Coverage of Bell Scandal



Ruben Vives, Former Illegal Immigrant, Wins Pulitzer for Coverage of Bell Scandal - Orange County News - Navel Gazing

This is a clear example that DREAMERs can in fact assimilate and if given the opportunity to become legal, they can do good things in our country. Vives is an excellent example of it.
Among his “good things in our country” did they happen to mention how many IDs he stole to remain here?
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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Ruben Vives, Former Illegal Immigrant, Wins Pulitzer for Coverage of Bell Scandal



Ruben Vives, Former Illegal Immigrant, Wins Pulitzer for Coverage of Bell Scandal - Orange County News - Navel Gazing

This is a clear example that DREAMERs can in fact assimilate and if given the opportunity to become legal, they can do good things in our country. Vives is an excellent example of it.
Vives is a needle in the proverbial haystick. The vast majority of illegals haven't finished high school
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:50 PM
 
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Oh yeah that totally makes up for the rapists, thieves, drug dealers, murderers and tax evaders. Amnesty all the way!
The DREAM ACT does not allow for such people to even apply.

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Among his “good things in our country” did they happen to mention how many IDs he stole to remain here?
No they didn't. Do you have that information?

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Vives is a needle in the proverbial haystick. The vast majority of illegals haven't finished high school
And by the time the US passes the DREAM ACT, they will be high school graduates or even college graduates, more will be on their way to finishing high school. As I said, the longer we wait, the more there will be.

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Old 04-23-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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And by the time the US passes the DREAM ACT, they will be high school graduates or even college graduates, more will be on their way to finishing high school. As I said, the longer we wait, the more there will be.
If these DREAMies have so much potential, how come Mexico doesn't have a higher academic standing in the world?
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:05 PM
 
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And the comments section -- pretty revealing about the gutter culture these dreamies really have:

a paisa straight up owned all those mensos that probably told him his entire life that he would amount to nothing and he showed them with a hot cup of vete a la chingada. way to go, vives!

as for all the p*nd*jos that consistently cry about "deporting all illegals," they should take a long hard look in the mirror and get their passports ready for a one-way ticket to gtfo 'cause the REAL illegals are not us, douchebags.


"a la chingada"???? p*nd*jos"????

Not a very classy people there.
I agree. Not very classy people. You should see the ones on the other side of the issue. Not very classy people either.
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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If these DREAMies have so much potential, how come Mexico doesn't have a higher academic standing in the world?
I wish I could answer your question but I don't have the answer. One thing that comes to mind is that Mexico for a long time was under dictatorship.

However, the DREAM ACT is not for illegals in Mexico. Its for those illegal immigrants that have been raised in the US and don't recognize any other country as theirs, except for the US. I was very lucky that as I child I came and went. I recognize both countries but most of these kids were brought when they were little and no nothing about where they came from.
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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I wish I could answer your question but I don't have the answer. One thing that comes to mind is that Mexico for a long time was under dictatorship.

However, the DREAM ACT is not for illegals in Mexico. Its for those illegal immigrants that have been raised in the US and don't recognize any other country as theirs, except for the US. I was very lucky that as I child I came and went. I recognize both countries but most of these kids were brought when they were little and no nothing about where they came from.
Still. It doesn't matter. You just can't have an excuse to legalize all of them, even if they are only kids. No amnesty, for any reason, ever. It is not fair, and it's jumping the line regardless
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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Its for those illegal immigrants that have been raised in the US and don't recognize any other country as theirs.
How can you be so sure?
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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No they didn't. Do you have that information?
No, but he had to work to survive. He certainly could not work without a SSN. That is, unless he worked under the table for an unscrupulous employer, in which case, he should have been charged with tax evasion.

Regardless, he is one out of 12-30 million.
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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I wish I could answer your question but I don't have the answer. One thing that comes to mind is that Mexico for a long time was under dictatorship.

However, the DREAM ACT is not for illegals in Mexico. Its for those illegal immigrants that have been raised in the US and don't recognize any other country as theirs, except for the US. I was very lucky that as I child I came and went. I recognize both countries but most of these kids were brought when they were little and no nothing about where they came from.
Most DREAMies don’t enter this country as infants. In fact, many are in their teens. Some even come without their parents. If they don’t recognize their homeland, something is very wrong mentally.
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