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Old 08-08-2007, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Occupied Territory
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On last night's show, Lou took off the boxing gloves and started swinging with clenched fists and bare knuckles. He called Bush, Commerce Secretary Gutierrez, the administration and Congress ALL liars. He made it a point to say they have been and still are lying to the American people about immigration, the need for guest worker programs and all other aspects of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill. He also called out the Chamber of Commerce, big business, the Open Borders Lobby and ethno-centric advocacy groups and accused them of expousing lies that are not backed up with a shred of facts in their propaganda.

I hope this show segment was taped and gets put on YouTube because it is well worth seeing.

Now, here are FACTS, that he presented:

The U.S. legalizes more than 2 million people each year through either citizenship or green card provision

We grant 3,300 people citizenship each day
We grant 3,200 people green cards each day
We grant 240 people asylum each day

We have 9 different guest worker programs already in existance, 6 of which are unlimited (no caps) in the number of workers that can be brought in.

2/3 of green cards granted to aliens are issued to family members of individuals that are already here in order to provide for family unification.

Legal Permanent Residents in U.S. (green cards)

2006: 1,266,264
2005: 1,122,373
2004: 957,883

Source: Department of Homeland Security

Question: How many guest worker programs do we have?

Answer: 9

Source: NumbersUSA

Question: What are they?

Answer:

SKILLED -- Treaty Traders, Treaty Investors -- authorized by international free trade agreements.

H-1B Workers -cap: 85,000 (unlimited exceptions to cap)
H-1C Nurses -cap: 500
L-1 Intracompany Transferees -unlimited

UNSKILLED --

H-2A Temporary Agricultural Workers -unlimited
H-2B Temporary or Seasonal Workers -cap: 66,000 ("returning workers" from prior 3 years exempt from cap)

OTHER WORKERS --

Workers with Extraordinary Ability -- unlimited
Athletes & Entertainers -- unlimited
Religious Workers -- unlimited
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:24 AM
 
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I love this guy. He tries to do what he thinks is best for the country. What more can we ask? I had learned that his wife is Mexican American. I wonder what the pro illegal immigration hate groups have to say about him?
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:41 AM
 
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Yes he's married to a Mexican American - who backs up everything he thinks. I watched an interview about him awhile back.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:36 AM
 
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Lou is great, he usually doesn't pull any punches. The only exception I have with Lou is when the president of La Raza comes on his show he sits there and lets her tell lie after lie, then smiles at her and says how happy he is that she took time out to come on his show.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Is this the same Lou Dobbs who reported 7000 cases of leprosy over the past 3 years due to illegal immigrants? Yeah, very credible source.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:27 PM
 
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He did not report that at all. Of course anyone who drinks the kool-aid will believe what the pro-illegal lobby says about him. If you would take the time to really listen or watch what he did report you will see that what he reported was in fact the absolute truth.

LEPROSY, HEPATITIS AND TUBERCULOSIS RISING FAST IN UNITED STATES

By Frosty Wooldridge
December 2, 2004

The out outbreak of hepatitis ‘A’ at the Chi-Chi Restaurant in Pennsylvania last year was a hint of a health care crisis accelerating across America. Over 100,000 cases of hepatitis have been documented in the United States in the past three years according to the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, DC.

In the past 40 years, the United States registered a total of 900 cases of the feared Biblical disease--leprosy. Virtually unknown to Americans in the last century, leprosy exceeded 7,000 new cases brought in on the backs of newcomers since 2001. Most of the people infected in America are illegal alien immigrants from leprosy hot spots in Mexico, Brazil, the Caribbean and India.

"And those are the ones we know about," Dr. William Levis, attending physician at Bellevue Hospital's Hansen's Disease Clinic. "There are probably many, many more."

Now known as Hansen's disease, leprosy arrives with immigrants from crowded, poor countries with scant sanitation. However, its new presence in America has caused 11 clinics to sprout up overnight. In the past six years, Levis and his staff have proved that many patients have contracted the disease without leaving the country. A 73 year old man from Queens, New York and a Jewish man from Westchester County, contracted leprosy without leaving the America. As a result, the disease is now officially endemic to the Northeastern United States for the first time, ever.

Leprosy's symptoms show in bumpy rashes, skin indentations and loss of feeling in hands and feet. They're usually misdiagnosed because the disease was unheard of in the U.S. until recently. One man who immigrated from Guyana, 47, spent years looking for a doctor to cure him from the red and white splotches on his face and body. When he arrived at the clinic, no one had guessed his condition, which resulted in the loss of one toe and some of the other.

Last edited by Yac; 08-09-2007 at 03:16 AM.. Reason: quote shortened, copyright protection
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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He did not report that at all. Of course anyone who drinks the kool-aid wi8ll believe what the pro-illegal lobby says about him. If you would take the time to really listen or watch what he did report you will see that what he reported was in fact the absolute truth.
The whole controversy involving Lou Dobbs and leprosy started with a “60 Minutes” segment a few weeks ago.

"60 Minutes" of May 6, 2007
Leprosy Statistics

The segment was a profile of Mr. Dobbs, and while doing background research for it, a “60 Minutes” producer came across a 2005 news report from Mr. Dobbs’s CNN program on contagious diseases. In the report, one of Mr. Dobbs’s correspondents said there had been 7,000 cases of leprosy in this country over the previous three years, far more than in the past.

When Lesley Stahl of “60 Minutes” sat down to interview Mr. Dobbs on camera, she mentioned the report and told him that there didn’t seem to be much evidence for it.

“Well, I can tell you this,” he replied. “If we reported it, it’s a fact.”

With that Orwellian chestnut, Mr. Dobbs escalated the leprosy dispute into a full-scale media brouhaha. The next night, back on his own program, the same CNN correspondent who had done the earlier report, Christine Romans, repeated the 7,000 number, and Mr. Dobbs added that, if anything, it was probably an underestimate. A week later, the Southern Poverty Law Center — the civil rights group that has long been critical of Mr. Dobbs — took out advertisements in The New York Times and USA Today demanding that CNN run a correction.

Finally, Mr. Dobbs played host to two top officials from the law center on his program, “Lou Dobbs Tonight,” where he called their accusations outrageous and they called him wrong, unfair and “one of the most popular people on the white supremacist Web sites.”


Truth, Fiction and Lou Dobbs - New York Times

P.S. Mohillbilly, I just now saw your edit. Can you provide a direct credible link please? No offense, Frosty Woolridge does not pass the sniff test.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Without getting into the accuracy discussion I can certainly understand and support Lou Dobbs sentiments. Why isn't this in the Immigration Forum???
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:43 PM
 
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It is the immigration forum.

I saw the thing on 60 Minutes and they misreported it also, but of course that seems to be expected from them since they seem to be as pro-illegal as they are.

I posted the facts for you and yet you continue to want to drink the kool-aid. That is your right of course but at least have the guts to research all sides instead of constantly posting the pro-illegal stuff like you do. At least some of us look at all sides and not just one side or the other depending on which side we may be on.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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One perspecitve. Another would be to research first and then print the truth from credible sources. I guess the U.S. Dept of Health and human Services is drinking some of that there Kool Aid too.

National Hansen's Disease Program Home
Data & Statistics
National Hansen's Disease Clinical Center
Ambulatory Care Clinics
Research
Clinical Topics
Training for Health Professionals
Frequently Asked Questions

New U.S. Reported Hansen's Disease (Leprosy) Cases by Year, 1976-2005
printer-friendly New U.S. Reported Hansen's Disease (Leprosy) Cases by Year, 1976-2005 (24K)
Year Cases
1976 208
1977 200
1978 231
1979 220
1980 346
1981 363
1982 370
1983 456
1984 395
1985 434
1986 342
1987 327
1988 270
1989 229
1990 246
1991 299
1992 215
1993 278
1994 208
1995 165
1996 154
1997 132
1998 103
1999 88
2000 76
2001 110
2002 133
2003 134
2004 131
2005 166
Total 7029


National Hansen's Disease Program (http://hrsa.gov/hansens/30yeartrend.htm - broken link)
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