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Old 07-07-2011, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Apples and oranges are being compared anyway. If an Irish team were playing against a U.S. team most Americans of Irish descent would be rooting for the U.S., not Ireland. It is different with many Americans of Mexican descent though. In a U.S. vs Mexico competition they would be rooting for Mexico as was exemplified in the opening topic. This has nothing to do with ethnic or U.S. holidays. They aren't competitions against one another.
I still don't think there are any differences when you're looking at the same generation. I have a couple friends who are 4th generation latinos. They don't know any Spanish and are as American as apple pie. Both would find it equally strange to root for Panama or Mexico over the U.S. in international sports.

I think where people point out differences is when they are comparing different generations. Of course somebody who was born in Mexico is going to have more Mexican pride and roots than somebody whose great-grandfather emigrated from Mexico and whose parents have lived their entire life in the U.S.

 
Old 07-07-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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Super weird to use sports as a barometer for loyalty. If you switch sports teams when you move, you should be deported.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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Interesting article. Even though the title is different than the discussion, It talks a lot about the illegal immigration issue if you read the article on the link.

Title" Soccer Fans in USA Hurt Mexico's Image & Interests"
And even if I moved to Mexico, I'd consider myself an American. Real shocking stuff here.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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I still don't think there are any differences when you're looking at the same generation. I have a couple friends who are 4th generation latinos. They don't know any Spanish and are as American as apple pie. Both would find it equally strange to root for Panama or Mexico over the U.S. in international sports.

I think where people point out differences is when they are comparing different generations. Of course somebody who was born in Mexico is going to have more Mexican pride and roots than somebody whose great-grandfather emigrated from Mexico and whose parents have lived their entire life in the U.S.
Granted, I have never claimed that all those Americans of Mexican descent regardless of generation or whether or not they were born here have more loyalty to Mexico than the U.S. but far too many do IMO.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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Granted, I have never claimed that all those Americans of Mexican descent regardless of generation or whether or not they were born here have more loyalty to Mexico than the U.S. but far too many do IMO.
What is the correct number?
 
Old 07-07-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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What is the correct number?
There was a poll out. I will try to find it, but the number is very high.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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And even if I moved to Mexico, I'd consider myself an American. Real shocking stuff here.
Then you are not assimilating.

What would be the reason for your move, if not to love, and embrace the culture and its people?
 
Old 07-07-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Then you are not assimilating.

What would be the reason for your move, if not to love, and embrace the culture and its people?
I can't love and embrace a culture and it's people without giving up being an American? That is just bizarre.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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To use a rather popular meme around this forum, what does this have to do with illegal immigration?

This seems like a pretty transparent attempt to rile up sentiment against a particular ethnic group, regardless of their immigration status.

But I know that can't be the case, because everyone here is adamant that they aren't bigoted and they only care about THE LAW.
Do you care any about THE LAW?
 
Old 07-07-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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Do you care any about THE LAW?
I care so much about THE LAW that I want to fix the bad ones. Freaky, I know.
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