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Old 07-20-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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And we're back to "it's the law". Full circle. Oh and, we apparently don't want dirty blue collar people here. They don't deserve freedom. Only the doctors and lawyers and computer programmers deserve those luxuries. I used to hear about how only in America could a meager person have the opportunity to reverse things and not just provide for their families but even become someone of importance. I guess we require you to be important now to take part in our elite privileges knows as basic human rights. Hell, most of them aren't even asking for the world, they would just like legal status so they could find a job and would be happy with that.

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Old 07-20-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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Easier to come legally, or easier to come legally for unskilled/uneducated Mexicans? We have standards for a reason.

Legal immigrants are afforded the same treatment and protections as citizens. So, please explain how they are being treated unfairly. I am a very strong proponent of equality and freedom for all. However, miscreants cannot be expected to be treated the same as the law-abiding. That’s why we have police, a judicial system, prisons, etc. There are consequences for unlawful behavior, and one is the denial of certain freedoms and privileges. Sorry, but that IS just.
The pro-illegals idea of equality for all is allowing anyone to come here that desires to. In other words no borders and no restrictions on immigration regardless of how it impacts U.S. citizens. You see, we shouldn't have any special rights in our own country according to them.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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And we're back to "it's the law". Full circle.
If you’re sick of “it’s the law” why don’t you explain why illegals should be above the law? Why don’t you explain why our country should not have the right to dictate who may enter, or establish criteria? Why don’t you explain why one country (Mexico) should have the right to dump millions of its underclass on U.S. taxpayers, and why we should not have the right to oppose this burden? And, why don’t you explain how the results of another amnesty will differ from 1986. C’mon, give it your best shot.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:36 AM
 
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And we're back to "it's the law". Full circle. Oh and, we apparently don't want dirty blue collar people here. They don't deserve freedom. Only the doctors and lawyers and computer programmers deserve those luxuries.
What part of WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING CITIZENS do you not comprehend? U.S. citizens, regardless of socioeconomic status, have a right to be here. Illegal aliens DO NOT!

And, if you are referring to our standards, then no, we do NOT need more low-skilled, uneducated foreigners entering our country. We certainly do NOT need low-class, perpetually pregnant, welfare parasites.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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I added more since you responded. Perhaps you want to reply further.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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What part of WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING CITIZENS do you not comprehend? U.S. citizens, regardless of socioeconomic status, have a right to be here. Illegal aliens DO NOT!
The WHOLE argument is about who should have that right and why.

I mean, how many times can you just repeat what the law is? When pro-choice people argue with pro-lifers, do you think they sitting there saying "we won the court cases!"?
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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What part of WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING CITIZENS do you not comprehend? U.S. citizens, regardless of socioeconomic status, have a right to be here. Illegal aliens DO NOT!
LOL! I couldn't help but read the post you were replying to. "Dirty blue collared" workers are undesirables? WTH? We have our own blue collared workers in this country and always have. They have my respect for their hard work and without them this country wouldn't have gotten built. The pro-illegals are really grasping at straws now.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:47 AM
 
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LOL! I couldn't help but read the post you were replying to. "Dirty blue collared" workers are undesirables? WTH?

According to Benicar they are. Here I'll quote her since you apparently missed it.

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Easier to come legally, or easier to come legally for unskilled/uneducated Mexicans? We have standards for a reason.

And to answer the question, I think it should be easier for anyone who wants to work as long as they pass a criminal background check, etc. Period.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:50 AM
 
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The WHOLE argument is about who should have that right and why.

I mean, how many times can you just repeat what the law is? When pro-choice people argue with pro-lifers, do you think they sitting there saying "we won the court cases!"?
You have yet to provide one cogent argument to justify open borders or the legalization of untold millions of illegal aliens. Your reasons are always related to personal gain. Sorry, but there are more people in this country than your small group of cheap labor peddlers/profiteers.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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If there aren't cogent arguments then why is it always a backpedal to "it's the law"?
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