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You are grasping at straws now. If something wasn't illegal then it was legal. Things were done differently then. Immigration "today" has to occur within the guidelines in place "today" not what was in place "yesterday". I mean this so elementary that I find it puzzling that it even has to be explained to you.
"Legal citizens", "legal travel", why is there a need to identify something as lawful in the absence of the "illegal" equivalent?...
The Comptroller’s office estimates the absence of the estimated 1.4 million undocumented immigrants in Texas in fiscal 2005 would have been a loss to our Gross State Product of $17.7 billion. Also, the Comptroller’s office estimates that state revenues collected from undocumented immigrants exceed what the state spent on services, with the difference being $424.7 million
If you don't trust the gov't numbers how can you trust the hospital figures? They don't check or ask for status. From your own link:
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Data on health care costs for illegal immigrants are sketchy because hospitals and community health centers don't ask about patients' legal status]
How would almost every single one not fall into that category?
Not drive
file an ITN and pay taxes
PAY at a Doctors office for all services used
pay for a private school for their kids
avoid the free lunch programs
avoid all other social services altogether.
Do you really think there would be many? It's not even some, it's most that in some form cost tax payers.
Considering only a fraction of them actually have kids that can take advantage of those social services and somewhere in the neighborhood of 75% of them are paying SS taxes, amount others, and they'll never collect it might make a little more sense that many will not be net drains on the system.
I have already explained the difference between then and now. There is simply no comparison.
The OP obviously thought otherwise to start the topic. You identified the numbers and benefits specifically as the differences. The method of arrival being the same is not enough for a comparison?
Estimates, Estimates, Estimates. No actual data. All speculation.
Benicar's Links:
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The state of Texas and local hospital districts spent an estimated $677 million to provide health care to illegal immigrants in a year, a new study says.
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In Texas, where the state comptroller estimates illegal immigrants cost hospitals $1.3 billion in 2006
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Illegal immigrants represent about 15% of the nation's 47 million uninsured people — and about 30% of the increase since 1980
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The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 59% of the nation's illegal immigrants are uninsured
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the Florida Hospital Association estimates the cost is $100 million for illegal patient care
Again, if you don't trust the gov't numbers how can you trust the hospital figures? They don't check or ask for status. From your own link:
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Data on health care costs for illegal immigrants are sketchy because hospitals and community health centers don't ask about patients' legal status]
If you don't trust the gov't numbers how can you trust the hospital figures? They don't check or ask for status. From your own link:
It’s much easier for hospitals to determine citizens from illegals. For one, a citizen will have a SSN and other ID. An illegal will not. On the other hand, there is no way for the government to differentiate between legal and illegal taxpayers. The same applies to school enrollment. I assure you, they know which students are illegal.
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