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Old 08-17-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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"How do you make a scandal out of a legitimate profit-making enterprise? Use loaded language, smears, and distort prosaic facts.

"Jailing Undocumented Immigrants Is Big Business ran the headine in The Huffington Post; the fact that this appeared beneath a link to another non-story - about Salma Hayek’s “boobs” - should have been a dead giveway".

"The article is accompanied by a video that could teach Dr Goebbels, Molotov, or even Alastair Campbell a thing or two about spin, or as it used to be called before it was sanitised – propaganda".

"Let’s begin at the beginning, what does the phrase undocumented immigrants mean? Try illegal immigrants, get the picture? People who enter a country illegally are by definition illegal immigrants or illegal aliens as in that song Englishman In New York, but without the romanticising".

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/310427
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:12 PM
 
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Jailing Undocumented Immigrants Is Big Business ran the headine in The Huffington Post.

And, NOT jailing illegal aliens is an even bigger business.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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Most detained immigrants dont stay in ICE custody for long if they have no criminal record, since bed space is limited and so many people are detained every day they have to move people fast. The only people who can be deported quickly if they sign a waiver to see immigration judge are mexicans
rest of the people are called OTM- Other than Mecicans by ICE and are released anywhere from 1 day-90 days with a court date and a voucher for Greyhound Bus to a destination in US they want to go
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:52 AM
 
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Most detained immigrants dont stay in ICE custody for long if they have no criminal record, since bed space is limited and so many people are detained every day they have to move people fast. The only people who can be deported quickly if they sign a waiver to see immigration judge are mexicans
rest of the people are called OTM- Other than Mecicans by ICE and are released anywhere from 1 day-90 days with a court date and a voucher for Greyhound Bus to a destination in US they want to go
All the more reason to pull out all the stops to secure the border including the double layered fence in the most porous areas. All the more reason to implement e-verify across the board, end birthright citizenship and deny any benefits to illegal aliens. Many will leave voluntarily and most will be deterred from coming with all the incentives removed. Therefore, there won't be a shortage of beds and they can be detained for far less time (less backlog in the courts) if they can't prove they are here legally and deported quickly rather than released back into our society.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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All the more reason to pull out all the stops to secure the border including the double layered fence in the most porous areas. All the more reason to implement e-verify across the board, end birthright citizenship and deny any benefits to illegal aliens. Many will leave voluntarily and most will be deterred from coming with all the incentives removed. Therefore, there won't be a shortage of beds and they can be detained for far less time (less backlog in the courts) if they can't prove they are here legally and deported quickly rather than released back into our society.
Even if borders are closed it don't stop someone crossing the border and asking for asylum from the first ICE agent he faces By law the alien has to be taken in front of Immigration Judge if ICE can'tverify his asylum claim
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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HYSTERIA, you say?
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:08 AM
 
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Even if borders are closed it don't stop someone crossing the border and asking for asylum from the first ICE agent he faces By law the alien has to be taken in front of Immigration Judge if ICE can'tverify his asylum claim
I didn't say "close" the border. Please re-read my post. If they are a Mexican national then they most likely won't be able to claim an asylum status.

So let me ask you this since you "appear" to be a newbie in here, what is your stance on illegal immigration, amnesty, etc. besides just spouting laws?
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:16 AM
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72 deleted posts later, if I could give you all some good old discipline, I would. After reading through this thread, which consisted solely of personal attacks, trolling and discussions about race (which still baffles me, as apparently no one here is racist) I seriously feel DUMBER than I was before entering this thread. Some of you have serious issues, I suggest seeing a specialist.
I'm not deleting this thread but closing it to give those that participated a chance to read this message. Seriously, I'm beginning to turn from indifferent to disgusted.
Closed.
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