Opposition to illegal aliens and amnesty: it's not about racism or hate - it's the math! (USA, working)
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Should they? I mean, are they more important than non-Americans, as human beings?
If I had family members or friends that were of illegal status.....oh wait. That would be putting them above other people. What is the word I am searching for here?
If I had family members or friends that were of illegal status.....oh wait. That would be putting them above other people. What is the word I am searching for here?
Which part of our history do you want to consider "always"? Back when we didn't let the Chinese in? Or the Turks/Slavs/other S. Europeans? I'm guessing it won't be any of those periods when we really did let in everyone.
We never really did let everyone in. Back in the days before food stamps and Medicaid, people coming here often left a more comfortable life here and had to work hard to make it here, there were no very generous government handout programs.
And not everyone who came here stayed here, it's estimated that a third of immigrants returned home shortly after arriving, no welfare offices to head to if the pay was too low or the work was too hard.
And if your problem with deporting illegals is because they aren't white - well guess again, many are white so there should be no trouble deporting them now.
We never really did let everyone in. Back in the days before food stamps and Medicaid, people coming here often left a more comfortable life here and had to work hard to make it here, there were no very generous government handout programs.
And not everyone who came here stayed here, it's estimated that a third of immigrants returned home shortly after arriving, no welfare offices to head to if the pay was too low or the work was too hard.
And if your problem with deporting illegals is because they aren't white - well guess again, many are white so there should be no trouble deporting them now.
Most illegals are hispanic and most hispanics are white - so deportation shouldn't be an issue.
and back when: people came here with a sponsor, they learned English, those who stayed, nomally did everything they could to become American citizens, and they were pround to be called Americans. Most of us, past middle age remember the days, we probably have family of friends that got here in the right way. Even those who managed to enter illegally, and yes, they did exist, did not depend on welfare. In fact had there been welfare and had they attempted to receive it, their illegal status would have sent them home in no time.
I don't think a person's color or nationality enters into the picture, this is another attempt at playing the race card. The entire illegal problem has gotten out of hand, unfortunately we can't deport them all, so we are going to have to find a way to work out the problems. Yes, as you say, most are HIspaniics and consider themselves white.
and back when: people came here with a sponsor, they learned English, those who stayed, nomally did everything they could to become American citizens, and they were pround to be called Americans. Most of us, past middle age remember the days, we probably have family of friends that got here in the right way. Even those who managed to enter illegally, and yes, they did exist, did not depend on welfare. In fact had there been welfare and had they attempted to receive it, their illegal status would have sent them home in no time.
I don't think a person's color or nationality enters into the picture, this is another attempt at playing the race card. The entire illegal problem has gotten out of hand, unfortunately we can't deport them all, so we are going to have to find a way to work out the problems. Yes, as you say, most are HIspaniics and consider themselves white.
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Government doesn't need to deport them all, they can tell them to get out and as former head of border and customs said "half will self deport overnight". The rest will self deport in time if they are repeatedly told to get out and some will need benefits and jobs stopped.
Government doesn't need to deport them all, they can tell them to get out and as former head of border and customs said "half will self deport overnight". The rest will self deport in time if they are repeatedly told to get out and some will need benefits and jobs stopped.
I agree. If you look at the states that are trying to pass legislation, the illegals are moving out. If we started enforcing the immigration laws we have on the books most would leave on their own. It would soon bring the numbers down to something we could easily deal with.
If we announced that laws would be enforced, and anyone wanting to voluntarily leave could do so within a three month time span without it counting against their record allowing them a chance to come back legally in the future, we would have our first exodus. The next three month round could state if you are heading back we will allow you to leave but you will be penalized as far as applying for citizenship in the future. All citizens would be required to carry a drivers license to prove citizenship and those coming from states that don't require proof of citizenship would be issued a card free of cost at that states expense. The next three months could entail huge fines and jail time for those employing illegals. And if an illegal is caught in the country they will forfeit all possessions and be permanently barred reentry. By the end of the year the problem could be all but solved at very little expense. Anyone not holding a citizenship card by the end of six months after initiation of the enforcement would face automatic deportation without a hearing.
I agree. If you look at the states that are trying to pass legislation, the illegals are moving out. If we started enforcing the immigration laws we have on the books most would leave on their own. It would soon bring the numbers down to something we could easily deal with.
If we announced that laws would be enforced, and anyone wanting to voluntarily leave could do so within a three month time span without it counting against their record allowing them a chance to come back legally in the future, we would have our first exodus. The next three month round could state if you are heading back we will allow you to leave but you will be penalized as far as applying for citizenship in the future. All citizens would be required to carry a drivers license to prove citizenship and those coming from states that don't require proof of citizenship would be issued a card free of cost at that states expense. The next three months could entail huge fines and jail time for those employing illegals. And if an illegal is caught in the country they will forfeit all possessions and be permanently barred reentry. By the end of the year the problem could be all but solved at very little expense. Anyone not holding a citizenship card by the end of six months after initiation of the enforcement would face automatic deportation without a hearing.
This is a great plan. It's not really difficult to make illegals self deport if only the government really wanted to do what citizens want instead of marching out pretenders as candidates.
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