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Old 10-05-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Mexico receives an estimated 10 billion dollars from it's people illegally living in the US. So the last thing Mexico wants is to stop it's people from flowing north. Mexico fights anything that remotely slows the flow down like a border fence but at the same time they built their own fence along their southern border.

Economic costs of mass immigration (legal and illegal immigration) - CAIR - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform
Sourced at the link to being from a 2002 Associated Press article:

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...By Sandra Marquez, The Associated Press, December 31, 2002, reprinted in The Desert Sun, February 27, 2003 [the Desert Sun link is now dead]

..."Money transfers from Mexican immigrants working in the United States to relatives back home increased to a record $10 billion in 2002, according to the Pew Hispanic Center in Washington, D.C."...
Under the "Remitances" section of the linked page:

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A May 28, 2004 study by Bendixen & Associates6 found that legal and illegal immigrants send a total of $30 billion to their home countries on an annual basis. Mexico receives $13.3 billion a year. The largest amount in remittances ($9.6 billion) is sent from California, followed by New York ($3.6 billion), Texas ($3.2 billion) and Florida ($2.5 billion). Of those surveyed by the study, 24% were Latin American-born U.S. citizens, 39% were legal residents, and 32% were illegal aliens. Sixty-one per cent of those surveyed send remittances overseas at least once a month. A typical remittance is between $150 and $250.
So in 2002 it was an estimated $10 billion sent by "it's people illegally living in the US" (your words), to the 2003 data of over $13 billion, but less than a third being from "illegal aliens"?...

Also sourced from the same page:

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...An average of 10,000 illegal aliens cross the border [from Mexico] every day - over 3 million per year. A third will be caught and many of them immediately will try again. About half of those remaining will become permanent U.S. residents (3,500 per day)...
This seems to imply that those "remaining" are somehow gaining legal status. We can also rule out that those "remaining" are recrossing (where the could be caught, and thus not "remaining" in the United States) to be recounted on another day. At "3,500 per day", that would rival the number of total legal immigration to the U.S. (about 1.3 million per year).

With an "Entry Without Inspection" it is not possible to do an "Adjustment of Status" within the United States (only if it is from an "inspection" on entry, so a visa overstay if an illegal alien)...

Which brings up that the numbers of the page also do not reflect the estimated 40% of illegal aliens that are visa overstays (they do not EWI, so would not be counted there)...

Is there an additional percentage of those that need to be summed with the total?...

Where was the premise that Mexico has a fence on its southern border sourced from?...

Or that how Mexico "fights" the border fence being built in the United States?...
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Old 10-05-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I simply want to know how they "know" if a remittance was done by some one legal or illegal. How can they track:

who has the money
where cash under the table went
where it ended up out of the US
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Old 10-05-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I simply want to know how they "know" if a remittance was done by some one legal or illegal. How can they track:

who has the money
where cash under the table went
where it ended up out of the US
The 2004 study was "based on a survey of 3,800 Latin American immigrants living in the United States conducted by Bendixen & Associates" (look for footnote 6 at the source)...

If by U.S. citizens and Legal Permanent Residents (over two-thirds of the senders in the study), the money probably wasn't from "under the table"...

The footnote also reports that, the 30 billion total to Latin American countries in 2004, 13.3 billion specifically to people living in Mexico...
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I simply want to know how they "know" if a remittance was done by some one legal or illegal. How can they track:

who has the money
where cash under the table went
where it ended up out of the US
Apparently the study is a compilation of at least two separate reports. "Bendixen & Associates" are online at Bendixen & Amandi International. If you look to their archives for 2004, there are links to the reports about remittances (The Central American countries report can be viewed either in Spanish or in English. The report solely on Mexico remittances is only available in Spanish).
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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NY Times makes an interesting point about the prevalence of repeat crossers in the people now crossing the border illegally...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/wo...ed-states.html

You deport them come right back. Send them to the pen when they get out and get deported they come right back.
Here's a start to the solution:

"The Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, said the government should revoke automatic citizenship for children born to illegal immigrants, and seize assets from deported illegal immigrants so they have fewer incentives to return."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/wo...ates.html?_r=1
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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The Center for Immigration Studies
lol
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:06 PM
 
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Arizona State Sen. Russell Pearce is set to unveil the anti-birthright citizenship bill this Friday, January 5th in Washington, D.C.
An End to Birthright Citizenship? | Pro 8 News.com - News, Weather, Sports - | Laredo, Texas | News

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Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told Fox News after the Arizona ruling came down that "birthright citizenship" needs to be changed.

"I'm a practical guy, but when you go forward I don't want 20 million more (illegal immigrants) 20 years from now," he said. "Let's have a system that doesn't reward people for cheating."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...al-immigrants/

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House Minority Leader John Boehner on Sunday said he's open to talks on changing the U.S. Constitution -- or at least the way it's interpreted -- so that U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants are not automatically U.S. citizens.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...h-considering/
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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lol
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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The Center for Immigration Studies have been called to testify of their research about illegal immigration for Congress and the Senate.

"He who laughs last laughs best."
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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Oh wow Congress, the symbol of intellectual purity hahhaa
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