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Old 11-07-2011, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
Working class Americans suffer because these elite politicians want more power, it's disgusting.

Generation Jobless: Young Men Suffer Worst in Weak Job Market - WSJ.com
Yes and it's minority youth most of all who suffer from the millions of dirt cheap laborers being brought in.

Cesar Chavez wasn't an open borders fool like the La Raza leaders are today, he and the UFW back then knew that open borders was nothing but cheap labor. The idiots today think the sell-out politicians actually love their group, they don't realize that it's love of money, love of being a cheap-labor corporation puppet.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
Actually, the polls show that the majority of Hispanic citizens in this country do support illegal aliens of their ethnic group. Where our politicians go wrong is not doing the math. There were only 10 milion Hispanics who voted in our last election and we have a total of 310 million Americans in our country. It isn't just conservative whites who oppose illegal immigration either. Democrats know that most minorities vote Democrat so they pander to all minorities. Most Republicans are not pandering to Hispanics because of this and I believe that most of them truly do object to illegal immigration.
Polls do not show the feelings of all people. We have extended family which includes people who are Cuban and Cuban/Puerto Rican. The people in our extended family do not support illegals getting voting rights or amnesty as it pushes the image of hispanic to that of illegals -- while in our large family, they did it the correct way and came legally before Castro ever got to power or were Puerto Rican by birth and American citizens.One child has been harassed by hispanics as not belonging and being white because she has light hair and light eyes while her brother is fully accepted -- dark hair and dark eyes. They live in 2 cultures and are accepting of both. They are also 2nd generation Americans, born here to parents who were citizens.

If they are in the minority, perhaps it is due to being educated and knowing full well that if there is amnesty ( accd'g. to this distant nephew) that he will be competing for jobs with a "lump" of illegals who got her on the "freebie" train and who will vote for whoever gives them the best deal. He said his vote will be for the person best for the country, not for ethnicity. Both he and his sister ( college age) are infuriated by it. They do not support illegals coming in on the base of ethnicity, but people legally for citizenship, as do the hispanic members of their side of the family.

Perhaps this is a sensitive issue with me: I see great kids who are here, American but Hispanic and who are not having an easy time from others who do not know them while all the talk and politicking of amnesty goes on. They just want to be accepted as themselves, finish college and go out in the world find jobs.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:22 PM
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Originally Posted by tigrs99 View Post
There is nothing wrong with an ethnic group supporting people from same group.
I agree with you 100%. Problem with this scenario is that they're supporting criminals. Now, if you are referring to hispanics that are here legally supporting other hispanics who are working on obtaining citizenship through the legal process, that would be different. But we all know that's not what you're saying.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:28 PM
Location: southern california
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its divide and conquer. as we become a disunited people, our governments cease to answer to us.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948 View Post
its divide and conquer. as we become a disunited people, our governments cease to answer to us.

We need this on bumper stickers, bill boards & tv ads. Great post.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chicagonut View Post
It is true that not all Hispanics want amnesty but unfortunately the majority of them do. Those of us who object to illegal immigration do so not only because of our high unemployment now. There are many reasons to object to illegal immigration even during the good times.
That's because in alot of places ( LA and Santa Ana, Calif. come to mind)
they are 1 or 2 generations removed from Illegal aliens and/or they have Illegal alien family members.

This is one of the reasons for the demographic change in some places in the last few years and also one of the main reasons California is going broke.

ESL classes, over burdened social services and tax payers, overcrowded schools, high crime and money wasted on printing forms in Spanish to cater to some of these people.

I can't understand why Illegal and some Legal Hispanics refuse/can't speak English after living here for decades.

Heck my grandparents, mom, wife and many others I know came here legally from different places as adults and can speak and write English.

My Grandmother came over from rural Italy in the 20's and learned English.
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