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"Some immigrant" would have his or her Green Card on them at ALL TIMES because it is a requirement.
In this particular case he isn't an "immigrant": He's staying at a hotel, driving a rental car (probably not a Mercedes)...
His (non-immigrant) visa would be imprinted in the German passport, which he wasn't carrying...
So, he didn't fulfill the "requirement" to carry his passport/visa, should he be charged under the Alabama law as misdemeanor, and be turned over to be deported (violating conditions would also crimp any future travel to the United States for awhile)?...
Why doesn't anyone want the full effect of the law on this German?...
In this particular case he isn't an "immigrant": He's staying at a hotel, driving a rental car (probably not a Mercedes)...
His (non-immigrant) visa would be imprinted in the German passport, which he wasn't carrying...
So, he didn't fulfill the "requirement" to carry his passport/visa, should he be charged under the Alabama law as misdemeanor, and be turned over to be deported (violating conditions would also crimp any future travel to the United States for awhile)?...
Why doesn't anyone want the full effect of the law on this German?...
Why does it matter he is German?
The 46-year-old executive was charged with violating the immigration law for not having proper identification, but he was released after an associate retrieved his passport, visa and German driver’s license from the hotel where he was staying, Anderson said.
He was able to produce a document. If he was here illegally he wouldn't have been able to.
In this particular case he isn't an "immigrant": He's staying at a hotel, driving a rental car (probably not a Mercedes)...
His (non-immigrant) visa would be imprinted in the German passport, which he wasn't carrying...
So, he didn't fulfill the "requirement" to carry his passport/visa, should he be charged under the Alabama law as misdemeanor, and be turned over to be deported (violating conditions would also crimp any future travel to the United States for awhile)?...
Why doesn't anyone want the full effect of the law on this German?...
So are you're saying that the Alabama law states that if a foreigner in this country doesn't have their passport/visa on him when encountered by LE that it automatically means they will be deported even though they are able to produce it later?
You really think that we would be ok for Germans or other non-hispanic foreigners to escape the consquences of not complying with our laws? Wow, you must really have a low opinion of the anti-illegal immigration members of this forum. I wonder where that came from? Or does your victim mentality for Hispanics/Mexicans run that deep?
In this particular case he isn't an "immigrant": He's staying at a hotel, driving a rental car (probably not a Mercedes)...
His (non-immigrant) visa would be imprinted in the German passport, which he wasn't carrying...
So, he didn't fulfill the "requirement" to carry his passport/visa, should he be charged under the Alabama law as misdemeanor, and be turned over to be deported (violating conditions would also crimp any future travel to the United States for awhile)?...
Why doesn't anyone want the full effect of the law on this German?...
You are over reaching (putting the cart before the horse) with your claim thinking he should be turned over for simply "violating" the condition of not having his passport on him. Should he be charged under Alabama law, yes, he should be fined to cover costs. ICE wouldn't detain him simply because his buddies brought his passport to the jail, had he not been able to produce his passport then yes ICE should have detained him for deportation. He's now in the sysytem provided the jail fingerprinted him, and I'll bet he never forgets his passport again or lets it out of arms reach along with his DL. In Europe and every other nation you never leave your country without keeping it on you or within arms reach, there should be no difference here.
You are over reaching (putting the cart before the horse) with your claim thinking he should be turned over for simply "violating" the condition of not having his passport on him. Should he be charged under Alabama law, yes, he should be fined to cover costs. ICE wouldn't detain him simply because his buddies brought his passport to the jail, had he not been able to produce his passport then yes ICE should have detained him for deportation. He's now in the sysytem provided the jail fingerprinted him, and I'll bet he never forgets his passport again or lets it out of arms reach along with his DL. In Europe and every other nation you never leave your country without keeping it on you or within arms reach, there should be no difference here.
Actually that is not true. It is very common practice to leave your passport in the hotel safe so it won't get lost or stolen. At least is was for many years.
Actually that is not true. It is very common practice to leave your passport in the hotel safe so it won't get lost or stolen. At least is was for many years.
And he was carrying an ID card after all.
It still is. In fact, in some countries the hotel will hold your passport during your stay.
Actually that is not true. It is very common practice to leave your passport in the hotel safe so it won't get lost or stolen. At least is was for many years.
And he was carrying an ID card after all.
Within arms reach (a simple metaphor) is meant to be somewhere that is close or safe, somewhere where it is handy. What exactly is "not true"?
As for this German having his ID on him, I was responding to IBM's hypothetical. Besides, simply having his German ID isn't enough to prove he is here on a valid visa. It identifies him as needing to also have his visa on him, which he did not, thus the detaining.
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Originally Posted by Sco
It still is. In fact, in some countries the hotel will hold your passport during your stay.
As long as you stay at the hotel or resort, once you leave the grounds many (nation dependent) recommend you take it with you (is it a mandate that you do, no, hence why I said within arms reach - easily accessible, handy, etc). If you do not, then you end up in the situation you have here, somebody had to go back to get it in order to get him out of custody, which resulted in him being detained.
Last edited by Liquid Reigns; 11-22-2011 at 05:48 PM..
Blue-eyed blonde Aryan gets run in. So much for the claim that Alabama would single out Mexicans.
Don't know if I feel better knowing that everyone's civil rights will be violated.
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