
12-12-2012, 09:33 AM
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This is not democracy. Importing votes is fraud.
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12-12-2012, 09:35 AM
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Location: Great State of Texas
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I would wager that it's greater than 7 million.
We've been told 12 million illegals for over a decade now.
The Reagan amnesty estimates were off by a factor of 2..twice as many people than the government projected.
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12-12-2012, 09:46 AM
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Location: Earth
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Did you forget about this guy?
A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR
As the nation's attention turns back to the fractured debate over immigration, it might be helpful to remember that in 1986, Ronald Reagan signed a sweeping immigration reform bill into law. It was sold as a crackdown: There would be tighter security at the Mexican border, and employers would face strict penalties for hiring undocumented workers.
Reagan’s Amnesty Program » Dispatches from the Culture Wars
If there is one thing conservatives love more than tax breaks it’s Ronald Reagan, and you can’t look at Reagan’s history without remembering the Simpson-Mazzoli Immigration Reform and Control Act, which granted the dreaded “a word” (amnesty, that is, something Obama pointedly said his plan will not do). But a lot of conservatives try to forget their beloved Reagan signed amnesty into law and said, “I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here, even though some time back they may have entered illegally.”
Whatever happened to the three million people Reagan granted amnesty to a quarter century ago? Did they succeed in ripping the nation to shreds, destroying American industry, and murdering gringos left and right, much as Reagan’s disciples predict would happen if such a bill would become law (or even Obama’s much more tepid stopgap executive order) today?
Actually, quite the opposite.
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12-12-2012, 09:52 AM
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Location: Great State of Texas
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But chielgirl, this time will be different.
We have a Dem in charge so it's OK.
We'll give those 12-20 million citizenship and tighten up the border.
Then we'll make laws to punish those that hire illegals.
But we'll continue to let illegals make use of our services without fear of deportation.
Whether it's a D or R that signs that paper (amnesty) the flow will not stop.
The US offers so much more for the poor than Mexico does and until Mexico starts taking care of their poor like the US does the flow of illegals will not stop.
You have colonias all along the Texas border. Mexico lets their colonias just exist as is. The US though has brought in water and sewers knowing very well they are here illegally.
We say one thing in public yet we do the opposite in actions.
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12-12-2012, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
This is not democracy. Importing votes is fraud.
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Not that have skin in the game between you Democrats and Republicans. However I have to wonder, don't you think all those "conservative" business owners who hire Mexicans might have influence?
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12-12-2012, 09:54 AM
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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I am cool with that, we are a country founded on immigration after all.
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12-12-2012, 09:56 AM
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Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
This is not democracy. Importing votes is fraud.
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And how is it illegals get to vote? 
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12-12-2012, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chielgirl
Did you forget about this guy?
A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR
As the nation's attention turns back to the fractured debate over immigration, it might be helpful to remember that in 1986, Ronald Reagan signed a sweeping immigration reform bill into law. It was sold as a crackdown: There would be tighter security at the Mexican border, and employers would face strict penalties for hiring undocumented workers.
Reagan’s Amnesty Program » Dispatches from the Culture Wars
If there is one thing conservatives love more than tax breaks it’s Ronald Reagan, and you can’t look at Reagan’s history without remembering the Simpson-Mazzoli Immigration Reform and Control Act, which granted the dreaded “a word” (amnesty, that is, something Obama pointedly said his plan will not do). But a lot of conservatives try to forget their beloved Reagan signed amnesty into law and said, “I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here, even though some time back they may have entered illegally.”
Whatever happened to the three million people Reagan granted amnesty to a quarter century ago? Did they succeed in ripping the nation to shreds, destroying American industry, and murdering gringos left and right, much as Reagan’s disciples predict would happen if such a bill would become law (or even Obama’s much more tepid stopgap executive order) today?
Actually, quite the opposite.
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Later he regretted doing it.
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12-12-2012, 10:03 AM
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
Later he regretted doing it.
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Do you have a link to Reagan regretting that decision or do you just wish he regretted it?
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12-12-2012, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by burdell
And how is it illegals get to vote? 
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I said fraud. 
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