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Old 06-13-2022, 10:28 AM
 
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Two of my Mexican-American in-laws, who are pro-illegal, have been hurt by illegal aliens. One was raped and beaten, and the other received injuries that almost cost him his eye.

These two people call their attackers "bad men" but continue to condone illegal migration as "natural" and "right."

Their tribalism trumps all else, even their survival.
Yep, the Latino/Mexican culture is very tribal. Blood is thicker than water to many of them. I think it comes from their Indio side as they always considered themselves to be tribes. That's why they continue to vote for the Democrats who keep promising amnesty.
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:00 PM
 
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Most illegal aliens kill and rape Hispanic people. Most Hispanic people vote Democrat. Democrats like open borders. So if Hispanic people have no problem with it, why should I?
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:01 PM
 
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and the liberal fools want us to lose all the guns because of a handful a school shootings that is utterly eclipsed by the violence illegal immigrants wrought on this side of the border
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:15 PM
 
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and the liberal fools want us to lose all the guns because of a handful a school shootings that is utterly eclipsed by the violence illegal immigrants wrought on this side of the border
There have been 27 school shooting incidents this year alone. That is more than a handful, genius. Check it out before you embarrass yourself again. Fifty-five dead kids and teachers and fifty-six wounded.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/sc...-where/2022/01
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:48 PM
 
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From a Texas - homeland security data and pnas.org: Foreshadowing our results, we find that undocumented immigrants have considerably lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of criminal offenses, including violent, property, drug, and traffic crimes. We also report no evidence that undocumented criminality has become more prevalent in recent years across any crime category.'

Prospectively: more Americans - natural and sworn, are committing , and being charged .

I would think Texas which has a next door neighbor view of the ' illegal' migration would want to validate this false or inflated claim. Instead the research and data that was sourced thru law/ enforcement still comes with judicial data, and police data.

My thoughts as a citizen is there is more crime protruding by fellow citizens then that of the labeled illegals. Neither is acceptable simply based on where one is born. A crime is a crime.
Humans will bend, break and justify acts that in their mind to thrive and or survive. No region is immune to that mindset.
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Old 06-13-2022, 05:21 PM
 
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From a Texas - homeland security data and pnas.org: Foreshadowing our results, we find that undocumented immigrants have considerably lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of criminal offenses, including violent, property, drug, and traffic crimes. We also report no evidence that undocumented criminality has become more prevalent in recent years across any crime category.'

Prospectively: more Americans - natural and sworn, are committing , and being charged .

I would think Texas which has a next door neighbor view of the ' illegal' migration would want to validate this false or inflated claim. Instead the research and data that was sourced thru law/ enforcement still comes with judicial data, and police data.

My thoughts as a citizen is there is more crime protruding by fellow citizens then that of the labeled illegals. Neither is acceptable simply based on where one is born. A crime is a crime.
Humans will bend, break and justify acts that in their mind to thrive and or survive. No region is immune to that mindset.
Any non-U.S. citizen who enters or overstays in the U.S. without permission is breaking U.S. law and is therefore a criminal. So 100 per cent of these people are criminals. As you state, a crime is a crime.

Why do you put the word "illegal" in quotes?
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Old 06-13-2022, 05:38 PM
 
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There have been 27 school shooting incidents this year alone. That is more than a handful, genius. Check it out before you embarrass yourself again. Fifty-five dead kids and teachers and fifty-six wounded.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/sc...-where/2022/01
While there is nothing worse that innocent children being murdered. Here's a link for you. Yes, there are other American murderers to but the fact remains if these illegals weren't here the following crimes would not have been committed by them.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...8-000-assaults
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Old 06-13-2022, 05:46 PM
 
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Any non-U.S. citizen who enters or overstays in the U.S. without permission is breaking U.S. law and is therefore a criminal. So 100 per cent of these people are criminals. As you state, a crime is a crime.

Why do you put the word "illegal" in quotes?
Note how that poster called illegal aliens "undocumented"? Here's some links for him debunking the lies about their crime rates.

https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal...6fPvIlcYejMRzM

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/01/im...s-crime-rates/

https://apnews.com/article/b78a2a3c7...ca3542e4581382

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tive-born-stu/

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...-are-the-real/
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Old 06-15-2022, 12:37 PM
 
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There have been 27 school shooting incidents this year alone. That is more than a handful, genius. Check it out before you embarrass yourself again. Fifty-five dead kids and teachers and fifty-six wounded.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/sc...-where/2022/01
And how many schools do we have, with out total population, and all the guns out there. It is a drop of sand at the beach.
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:24 PM
 
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Actually, native born Americans commit crime at a higher rate than illegal immigrants do. Where's the outrage? We should deport all American citizens and welcome their foreign-born replacements, I guess.
Another illogical attempt at reasoning, but instead find yourself with circular thinking.

Americans cannot be deported because they have a birthright passed on by our forefathers.
Illegal aliens have no such right and no business being here to begin with, and they should be deported for that reason alone.
Of course if they commit crimes by killing, molesting, and raping Americans (among other crimes), those who think they should be allowed to be here, should be held accountable in some fashion. I am surprised more politicians or DA's in so called "sanctuary cities" are not harmed/killed by parents or victim's families, who have suffered such a horror because of their policies.
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