Amnesty, not citizenship (McCain, illegal immigration, employment, Mexicans)
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Justice? Just because these lawbreakers have managed to evade the law for 5 years that should entitle them to amnesty?
Yes, justice. The United States is a party to their "crime" and needs to absorb some of the consequences. If I were a Mexican living in the hell-hole of Juarez with a wife and children, and the U.S. rolled out the proverbial welcome mat, I'd cross the border in a heartbeat.
Illegals have only "managed to evade the law" because the law has been deliberately, purposefully, and culpably unenforced. And the culpability doesn't belong only to The Government, but to the Americans who elected their government, who refuse to hold it accountable, who run the businesses who hire illegals, and who themselves, by the way, have set a lousy example of law abiding and respect for borders.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
We don't need them.
That doesn't matter. Justice is justice and our needs have nothing to do with it.
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Even if legaized they will still be a burden to our society because most are uneducated and poor.
The uneducated and poor can be a tremendous blessing if you're capable of thinking beyond dollars and cents. Besides, with legalization they will be increasingly educated and prosperous.
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They are closing in on being the majority in Texas, which could potentially spell doom for the GOP. Now would be a good time for their leaders to put a muzzle on the xenophobes if they want to stay relevent.
I plan on celebrating on the election I see Texas goes Blue and adds that chunk of electoral votes to the Democrat running for office.
In justice, we should offer amnesty to illegals who have been here for five years or longer, have otherwise been law-abiding, and who have employers or sponsors. Why? Because the United States is partially responsible for their lawbreaking due to a deliberate, "wink, wink" lack of enforcement for the sake of cheap labor.
But not citizenship. They would be legal citizens but not voters.
Can someone explain why such a proposal isn't even being considered by either party?
I have been saying this same thing for quite a while. They came here illegally. They have no birthright. Take the offer and stay, or leave it and go back to the nation came from.
Also make sure they understand that should they be caught voting, they will be deported.
The only reason this is an issue is because dirtbag politicians want votes.
Why don't you Move to Mexico if that is what you are waiting for the USA to become.
Why would I want to move to Mexico, I already live in a blue state. I will just celebrate because the Republicans would lose their strongest hold on electoral votes and will doom themselves to losing the presidential elections for a long time come until they change their platform completely.
Oh and to answer your idiotic post, I have nothing against the people of Mexico, it has some very beautiful parts to the country and I have been fortunate to know plenty of great Mexican people over the years.
Why would I want to move to Mexico, I already live in a blue state. I will just celebrate because the Republicans would lose their strongest hold on electoral votes and will doom themselves to losing the presidential elections for a long time come until they change their platform completely.
Oh and to answer your idiotic post, I have nothing against the people of Mexico, it has some very beautiful parts to the country and I have been fortunate to know plenty of great Mexican people over the years.
I have nothing against the people of Mexico either, until they sneak over here illegally.
I wish them well in Mexico.
I hope they can live free from corrupt police and government. Free from murderous drug cartels. I hope they can enjoy a thriving economy and the benefits that come with that.
I want to enjoy those things here in the USA too. I can't when we have an invasion of socialists.
You think in terms of your side against the other side. Is it good for a nation to be over run with illegal aliens? Anything is ok with you as long as the Democrats hold their power to tax and grow government... right?
You are as bad for this nation as the globalist bankers are.
I have nothing against the people of Mexico either, until they sneak over here illegally.
I wish them well in Mexico.
I hope they can live free from corrupt police and government. Free from murderous drug cartels. I hope they can enjoy a thriving economy and the benefits that come with that.
I want to enjoy those things here in the USA too. I can't when we have an invasion of socialists.
You think in terms of your side against the other side. Is it good for a nation to be over run with illegal aliens? Anything is ok with you as long as the Democrats hold their power to tax and grow government... right?
You are as bad for this nation as the globalist bankers are.
Can you tell the difference between an illegal Mexican and a legal one just by looking at them? Also, who is gonna pick your crops for you at below minimum wage without the cost of crops going up? I know you would cry about that if you saw that spike in food prices.
Also, why are you concerned about the people who come here illegally rather than the people that employ illegal workers? If they weren't able to find work in the US, do you think they would be coming to the US to begin with?
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