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Old 11-08-2007, 10:49 PM
 
Location: California
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And.. they moved over here and had to combat against the Mexican gangs.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:10 PM
 
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"Bloods, Crips, Folk, Vice Lords, Latin Kings are names that often cause alarm and fear MS-13among the gentle people of America. Now a gang is emerging on the scene that causes members of these notorious gangs to fear or at least have second thoughts about venturing onto the wrong street. La Mara Salvatrucha is a well organized and very violent, very brutal gang born in El Salvador. It is more commonly known as MS-13.
........ their paramilitary type structure and order that comes from years of civil wars and insurgencies in Central America,

.........MS 13 first arrived in the USA in California in the 1980’s"
we all know about ms-13. what does this have to do with anything?
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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can you give me an example?
give you examples of what? background checks working? or criminals that are repeat offenders? I can give you plenty of storys of repeat offenders, even ones that are illegal here in the US that have a track record of crimes in Mexico. One even had a warrent for his arrest in Mexico with an accusation of murder, he um... murdered someone here in Colorado

Officer killed by an illegal alien, I should note that the officer was off duty when he was murdered
Slain Officer Honored In Funeral Service - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/4485183/detail.html - broken link)
Injured Police Detective Describes Partner's Fatal Shooting - Denver News Story - KMGH Denver (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/4480202/detail.html - broken link)


previously deported illegal alien returns and kills 13 year old
Kidnapper Of 13 Year-old Florida Boy Is A Previously Deported Illegal Alien :: National News :: Hyscience

recent killings of three students (note that they had three prior felony arrests one including molestation previous to these killings)
Marcela Sanchez - To Serve, Protect and Deport - washingtonpost.com


"The number of deported illegal immigrants with criminal records has increased substantially in recent years, according to Homeland Security Department statistics."


I don't have access to be able to do backround checks on some of the other violent crimes committed by illegal aliens, but I could guarantee that a good majority of them committed crimes and have record within Mexico.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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we all know about ms-13. what does this have to do with anything?
They are some of the very violent illegal aliens that have come to America, and continue to commit very violent crimes. Crimes so bad that it has American gangs running for fear. Thats what it has to do with. Do damn backround checks on them and you will find trails back to their home country.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:25 PM
 
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They are some of the very violent illegal aliens that have come to America, and continue to commit very violent crimes. Crimes so bad that it has American gangs running for fear. Thats what it has to do with. Do damn backround checks on them and you will find trails back to their home country.
i asked for an example of how you would do such a check and havent received an answer.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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i asked for an example of how you would do such a check and havent received an answer.
The government has many ways of doing backround checks. Have you purchased a gun? applied for a governement job? Yes it would take some work on boths sides. But it can be done
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:39 PM
 
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The government has many ways of doing backround checks. Have you purchased a gun? applied for a governement job? Yes it would take some work on boths sides. But it can be done
thats nice. so give me an example of how you screen for gang involvement.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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thats nice. so give me an example of how you screen for gang involvement.
Look at their criminial past. Gang violence has a specific path. Your fighting about one word. or its meaning, where the lifestyle is what you should be arguing.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:01 AM
 
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Look at their criminial past. Gang violence has a specific path. Your fighting about one word. or its meaning, where the lifestyle is what you should be arguing.
im not arguing against a background check. but a background check doesnt show gang involvement or potential gang involvement... it just shows crimes committed and prosecuted. gang involvement was the issue presented in this thread, not general crime.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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im not arguing against a background check. but a background check doesnt show gang involvement or potential gang involvement... it just shows crimes committed and prosecuted. gang involvement was the issue presented in this thread, not general crime.
It may not show gang involvement, but It will show trends toward that. Similar accomplices, similar style crimes, who the crimes were committed on.

Why are you auguring about a word? Any violent crime trends that show up in an application for citizenship should be denied, regardless of gang ties or not.
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