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Old 11-19-2007, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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"On the first day of July, Satender Singh was gay-bashed to death. The 26-year-old Fijian of Indian descent was enjoying a holiday weekend outing at Lake Natoma with three married Indian couples around his age. Singh was delicate and dateless — two facts that did not go unnoticed by a party of Russian-speaking immigrants two picnic tables away.

According to multiple witnesses, the men began loudly harassing Singh and his friends, calling them "7-Eleven workers" and "Sodomites." The Slavic men bragged about belonging to a Russian evangelical church and told Singh that he should go to a "good church" like theirs.

One of the Slavic men then sucker-punched Singh in the head. He fell to the ground, unconscious and bleeding. The assailants drove off in a green sedan and red sports car, hurling bottles at Singh's friends to prevent them from jotting down the license plate. Singh suffered a brain hemorrhage. By the next day, hospital tests confirmed that he was clinically brain dead."


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Old 11-19-2007, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Prejudice and violence like this is a horrible thing. I can't contemplate ever doing anything even remotely similar and wonder what goes on inside these animal's heads.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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White man I may be: those 'Slavic' scumbags should be tried and convicted.

What I cannot get over is how many skinheads seem to come from a Russian culture which suffered horribly under German Naziism.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:26 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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White man I may be: those 'Slavic' scumbags should be tried and convicted.

What I cannot get over is how many skinheads seem to come from a Russian culture which suffered horribly under German Naziism.
Usually cultures or human beings who were victims of abuse develop that behavior as a self defense mechanism

Imho that's why countries full of diversity with people from all races where everybody just mixes, and the concept of race is non existant are the ones who will have the better future karmically speaking.

These countries are an example to the world, showing how people from different cultures, races, religions and backgrounds can live together in peace and harmony.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:31 PM
 
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Sad as this article is to any decent, compassionate reader, I'm surprised no one YET has come up with a way to blame this incident on America's treatment of immigrants. How about this.."Russian-speaking Latvians don't NORMALLY beat up on, and murder, Fijians of Indian descent..this only happens in AMERICA.".....no, that's not too convincing. Somebody will come up with a better way to blame us, though.

Meanwhile, I don't blame America at all. I blame human evil, heartlessness, and cruelty, of which every culture has a share....America, in some ways, less than others.

BTW--not to contradict my friend TravellingFella, but Sacramento County is ALREADY a pretty diverse place. In this case, the "diversity" didn't seem to defuse the enmity between these two groups--it almost seems in some ways that diversity brought about the conditions that enabled the incident to happen.

Not trying to discount diversity, at all--only to remind everyone that diversity is definitely a double-edged sword. Diversity is certainly a fact of life, and will become more so in the future--but is it wise to offer unqualified praise for it, without also allowing for the possibilties of its causing problems (such as the OP's post shows)?. Perhaps diversity is "neutral"--it can be good, or bad, or both.

Something to consider, at least.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:54 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Sad as this article is to any decent, compassionate reader, I'm surprised no one YET has come up with a way to blame this incident on America's treatment of immigrants. How about this.."Russian-speaking Latvians don't NORMALLY beat up on, and murder, Fijians of Indian descent..this only happens in AMERICA.".....no, that's not too convincing. Somebody will come up with a better way to blame us, though.

Meanwhile, I don't blame America at all. I blame human evil, heartlessness, and cruelty, of which every culture has a share....America, in some ways, less than others.

BTW--not to contradict my friend TravellingFella, but Sacramento County is ALREADY a pretty diverse place. In this case, the "diversity" didn't seem to defuse the enmity between these two groups--it almost seems in some ways that diversity brought about the conditions that enabled the incident to happen.

Not trying to discount diversity, at all--only to remind everyone that diversity is definitely a double-edged sword. Diversity is certainly a fact of life, and will become more so in the future--but is it wise to offer unqualified praise for it, without also allowing for the possibilties of its causing problems (such as the OP's post shows)?. Perhaps diversity is "neutral"--it can be good, or bad, or both.

Something to consider, at least.
I understand pretty well your point my friend, I should have said diversity AND tolerance, lack of prejudices, acceptance of the others because you recognize a member of your ow,n kind another brother.

No country is exempt from racism, because our world is not a perfect place and human beings have egos and duality inside, all of us, but some countries really give examples of tolerance.

Brazil is one of this places, I've never seen more tolerance in my whole life as the one I've experienced in this beautiful land, I guess that must be one of the reasons of many people simply falling in love with this country and becoming Brazilians, imho is almost impossible not to become at least a bit Brazilian if you spend a long time here because of the warm and loving vibes of the people.

I haven't been to Canada but for what my friends who've been there and the ideas I've exchanged with canadian friends who have stayed at my home in Mexico seem to be really tolerant people as well.

Respect!
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:07 PM
 
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I understand pretty well your point my friend, I should have said diversity AND tolerance, lack of prejudices, acceptance of the others because you recognize a member of your ow,n kind another brother.

No country is exempt from racism, because our world is not a perfect place and human beings have egos and duality inside, all of us, but some countries really give examples of tolerance.

Brazil is one of this places, I've never seen more tolerance in my whole life as the one I've experienced in this beautiful land, I guess that must be one of the reasons of many people simply falling in love with this country and becoming Brazilians, imho is almost impossible not to become at least a bit Brazilian if you spend a long time here because of the warm and loving vibes of the people.

I haven't been to Canada but for what my friends who've been there and the ideas I've exchanged with canadian friends who have stayed at my home in Mexico seem to be really tolerant people as well.

Respect!
Good post--I visited Brazil several times in my younger years (briefly, only--I was a merchant seaman)--but also was impressed by its huge diversity, grand scale, stunning beauty and warm people. I have many fond memories of Brazil--though not sure I'd want to live there permanently. But there are few more beautiful, or diverse, places on earth, IMHO...

Canada is a huge, interesting place, as well...not sure I'd want to spend my life there, either, but it's a pretty nice place--very scenic and uncrowded---climate takes some getting used to, though..
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:38 PM
 
Location: California
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Prejudice and violence like this is a horrible thing. I can't contemplate ever doing anything even remotely similar and wonder what goes on inside these animal's heads.

I had trouble contemplating whether I should kill a rat or not that was in my house. Let alone a human being 0.0
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Little Pond Farm
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Usually cultures or human beings who were victims of abuse develop that behavior as a self defense mechanism

Imho that's why countries full of diversity with people from all races where everybody just mixes, and the concept of race is non existant are the ones who will have the better future karmically speaking.

These countries are an example to the world, showing how people from different cultures, races, religions and backgrounds can live together in peace and harmony.

Can you name a single country were diversity works?
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:51 AM
 
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Can you name a single country were diversity works?
I admit, I can't.
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