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Old 12-16-2007, 04:08 PM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Exploitation of the Mexican people must end.

Slaves were good workers too -- but the USA does not need to build an economy around having unlimited numbers of desperate starving people who will take any kind of abuse.

All this massive immigration results from social injustice and instability in Mexico and only promotes more instability. Fix the problem at the root of the problem -- fix Mexico.

You bleeding hearts need to go down into Mexico and demand justice, the USA cannot just be the dumping grounds for all it's many problems.
I agree, let's see what happens, playing with fire is good, radical changes are necessary sometimes, what if something good comes out of it? then those fear voices will remain silent and more effective strategies will be developed
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Interesting; with the imploding economy in places like Michigan, I suspect that a lot of the shortfall in labor here in Arizona would be made up by immigration from other parts of the USA. I know of several people who are champing at the bit to leave the Snow Belt.
I hear one of the main reasons they're NOT streaming down here is because they can't unload their houses.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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It's madness that anyone is trying to stop enforcement of the new illegal alien crackdown.

Fast food problems, who gives a rat's behind.......
Yeah really; there's too many fast food restaurants already. Aren't we fat enough?
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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A) I like fire

B) Companies are now MOVING TO ARIZONA because of its immigration stand

You are on the wrong side of this issue and are full of misinformation - Clearly, you are uninformed
Nah, he just has a financial interest in the status quo; he employs illegals.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I know people who run restaurants and they tell me the people they suspect to be undocumented workers are much more likely to work harder than the American Citizens or legal immigrants. They are hungry and cause limited trouble. They dread having to go back to American teenagers.
Tough....oooh, they won't have their little serfs to exploit. Wah. If your business model is based on black market labor, your problem is YOU.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:29 PM
 
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Exploitation of the Mexican people must end.
Americans have it to good here, these wages for illegal immigrants are an 8X increase from wages in Mexico. Any and every American would devour a job that has an 8X increase. This country doesn't understand the luxuries our citizens have. In parts of Mexico, people scavenge trash cans for food and the poor people food diet consists of beans and water. In another instance you stated it was slave labor, in the eyes of the illegal immigrant they'll work for anything. The jobs they work in the United States are striking gold rush for them. It might be exploitation for businesses, but it's a great living for illegal immigrants.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:30 PM
 
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As they say-

"Old man, You have no chance crossing the border?"

"I have no chance here."
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Americans have it to good here, these wages for illegal immigrants are an 8X increase from wages in Mexico. Any and every American would devour a job that has an 8X increase. This country doesn't understand the luxuries our citizens have. In parts of Mexico, people scavenge trash cans for food and the poor people food diet consists of beans and water. In another instance you stated it was slave labor, in the eyes of the illegal immigrant they'll work for anything. The jobs they work in the United States are striking gold rush for them. It might be exploitation for businesses, but it's a great living for illegal immigrants.

...at the expense of American citizens and legal immigrants. This country is NOT Central America's economic refugee camp. The problem is theirs to fix, not ours.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:54 PM
 
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I agree, let's see what happens, playing with fire is good, radical changes are necessary sometimes, what if something good comes out of it? then those fear voices will remain silent and more effective strategies will be developed
The worse that can happen -- we find out that even with wage increases and better job benefits, there is a true shortage of workers in certain fields and the employers then legally sponsor their immigrants. They are given H1B visas or other legal immigration status.

With legal sponsorship, there are responsibilities from the employers. They have to pay legal wages, and provide for their immigrants.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Americans have it to good here, these wages for illegal immigrants are an 8X increase from wages in Mexico. Any and every American would devour a job that has an 8X increase. This country doesn't understand the luxuries our citizens have. In parts of Mexico, people scavenge trash cans for food and the poor people food diet consists of beans and water. In another instance you stated it was slave labor, in the eyes of the illegal immigrant they'll work for anything. The jobs they work in the United States are striking gold rush for them. It might be exploitation for businesses, but it's a great living for illegal immigrants.
What a load....

Have you even been to Mexico? You make it look like a festering cesspool. As a matter of fact the very opposite is true. Mexicans come for increased quality of life which is modest in Mexico, but not desperate. Oh, and the richest man in the world (yeah you guessed it, a Mexican). Scavenge trash cans as the norm LOLOLOL
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