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01-08-2008, 07:30 AM
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Most Americans do not get the chance to see all the news and real facts about the thousands of violent criminals who are here in America ILLEGALLY.. and all of the pro-illegal folks out there don't want you to see and know! They use every exuse in the book to make-light of the devastating impact these illegal criminals have on real Americans... This news is not made up... it's REAL, and thousands apon thousands of illegals crossing our borders from mexico are REPEAT violent criminals! Close our borders NOW! Let the ones in who do, and are willing to go thru the legal process, most who come here legally DO want to come and work, raise a family, and abide by our laws.
The High Cost of Deporting Violent Illegal Alien Criminals |
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01-08-2008, 07:43 AM
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Deport all the violent illegal criminals. That's one thing we can all agree on.
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01-08-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by blacknight04
Deport all the violent illegal criminals. That's one thing we can all agree on.
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The problem with that though is what does that do to the sending countries?
We keep only the good ones and ship back the bad -- but that doesn't actually help countries like Mexico and Guatemala build up or reform.
Or we send back some 18 year old illegal gang type -- but the rest of his family is here illegally and committing only non-violent crimes -- but that kid needs the support of his family if there's going to be any hope for him. |
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01-08-2008, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by malamute
The problem with that though is what does that do to the sending countries?
We keep only the good ones and ship back the bad -- but that doesn't actually help countries like Mexico and Guatemala build up or reform.
Or we send back some 18 year old illegal gang type -- but the rest of his family is here illegally and committing only non-violent crimes -- but that kid needs the support of his family if there's going to be any hope for him.
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It's a catch-22. If they are deported after having committed crime in our country they are actually set free on their home country. Their home country does not consider them a criminal! |
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01-09-2008, 10:16 AM
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I'll make it simple- Deport ALL illegals. period.
If they are here n illegal status, they are criminals, and need to be sent home
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01-09-2008, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by malamute
The problem with that though is what does that do to the sending countries?
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Why would we want to keep violent criminals who have illegally entered our country? Why should we care how their return will impact their countries of origin?
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We keep only the good ones and ship back the bad -- but that doesn't actually help countries like Mexico and Guatemala build up or reform.
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How does it ‘help’ our country? We have enough homegrown miscreants; we certainly don’t need to have them imported. The U.S. is not responsible for ‘building up’ or ‘reforming’ Mexico or Guatemala; that is THEIR responsibility.
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Or we send back some 18 year old illegal gang type -- but the rest of his family is here illegally and committing only non-violent crimes -- but that kid needs the support of his family if there's going to be any hope for him.
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What is your definition of ‘non-violent’ crimes? Perhaps document fraud or identity theft? They may not be considered ‘violent’ crimes; however, I can assure you, these crimes are far from innocuous. Many decent, law-abiding citizens have had their lives destroyed due to identity theft.
Your comments are absolutely astonishing. |
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01-09-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by malamute
The problem with that though is what does that do to the sending countries?
We keep only the good ones and ship back the bad -- but that doesn't actually help countries like Mexico and Guatemala build up or reform.
Or we send back some 18 year old illegal gang type -- but the rest of his family is here illegally and committing only non-violent crimes -- but that kid needs the support of his family if there's going to be any hope for him.
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It shouldn't be our responsibility or concern what happens inside a sovereign nations borders. We need to pickup and deport these illegals. What Mexico or other nations do with them afterwards, or what the deported illegals do in their own country is none of our business. |
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01-09-2008, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Benicar
Why would we want to keep violent criminals who have illegally entered our country? Why should we care how their return will impact their countries of origin?
How does it ‘help’ our country? We have enough homegrown miscreants; we certainly don’t need to have them imported. The U.S. is not responsible for ‘building up’ or ‘reforming’ Mexico or Guatemala; that is THEIR responsibility.
What is your definition of ‘non-violent’ crimes? Perhaps document fraud or identity theft? They may not be considered ‘violent’ crimes; however, I can assure you, these crimes are far from innocuous. Many decent, law-abiding citizens have had their lives destroyed due to identity theft.
Your comments are absolutely astonishing.
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You missed my point.
My point is that I don't think it's right to distinguish and keep the "more useful" and throw back the worst -- because that doesn't ultimately help anything.
Send illegals home together, keep their families intact -- and back in their own country.
Immigration should be limited to only those people who will abide by our laws, and who have learned English, wish to be American and can be self-sufficient. |
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01-09-2008, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye48
It shouldn't be our responsibility or concern what happens inside a sovereign nations borders. We need to pickup and deport these illegals. What Mexico or other nations do with them afterwards, or what the deported illegals do in their own country is none of our business.
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I didn't say don't deport. I was just debating the practicality of deciding certain illegals should be allowed to break our laws and we'll just toss back the "undesireables" because really that doesn't help the situation back home at all.
Deport all people found to be here illegally. Not only those committing violent crimes. |
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01-09-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blacknight04
Deport all the violent illegal criminals. That's one thing we can all agree on.
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deport them? what will that accomplish. they'll just walk back over the border. execute the scumbags |
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