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Old 03-14-2008, 08:30 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I see them as people, that is my choice. The "illegal Aliens" are looked upon just like the blacks were. Some will say it is not racist, but this is a very racist country still today. You have your views and I have mine, I guess that is what democracy is for.

the black ppl that you speak of are/were citizens of this country. those that sneak across the border illegally are not citizens. is that the strongest argument that you can muster?
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:32 PM
 
Location: California
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the black ppl that you speak of are/were citizens of this country. those that sneak across the border illegally are not citizens. is that the strongest argument that you can muster?
You do realize there is such a thing as a Black Latin American right? It's just that the Black Phenotype was washed away in the Mestizo.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:43 PM
 
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I see.........

The ancestors of most of today's Black Americans were brought here against their will.........

The illegal immigrants came here on their own volition.

As a nation; we have the right to secure our borders which includes deporting the above lawbreakers.
I'm not saying we don't have the right to secure our borders and never have.
I think that there is a segment that use securing the borders and deporting as a guise of racism. I understand that Black Americans were brought here against their will, and look how they were treated. It may have got better over time, but there is still racism in this country and that is usually when a group of people fail to see other groups as people.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I'm not saying we don't have the right to secure our borders and never have.
I think that there is a segment that use securing the borders and deporting as a guise of racism. I understand that Black Americans were brought here against their will, and look how they were treated. It may have got better over time, but there is still racism in this country and that is usually when a group of people fail to see other groups as people.
There has always been racism; and there will always be racism------hence laws that are enforced to keep most of the extremists in check.

Racism has many causes-------most of which are determined by 'culture' or the lack thereof.

Hell: till recently; look at the Irish Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland.......factional fighting which was de facto 'racism'------yet, genetically speaking, 95%+ of members of both groups are the same ethnicity.
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:51 PM
 
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There has always been racism; and there will always be racism------hence laws that are enforced to keep most of the extremists in check. There are many that are not in check, thus hate crimes
Continue.

Racism has many causes-------most of which are determined by 'culture' or the lack thereof. And also because some they are better or more entitled than ones they consider beneath them.

Hell: till recently; look at the Irish Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland.......factional fighting which was de facto 'racism'------yet, genetically speaking, 95%+ of members of both groups are the same ethnicity.
That does not make it right. I'm not speaking of legal or illegal, I,m talking about people. I doubt if many white Americans have felt the sting of racism.
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Old 03-15-2008, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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That does not make it right. I'm not speaking of legal or illegal, I,m talking about people. I doubt if many white Americans have felt the sting of racism.
Deal with it.

I have a problem with racism as well.
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Old 03-15-2008, 06:23 PM
 
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Default Secure our borders,

or we will secure them for us, the American People, God Bless America.
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