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This clears up this stuff about Obama separating families just like Trump is now doing.
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While the Obama administration's immigration approach was not without controversy, it’s simply untrue to say he had a policy of separating families... No, Donald Trump
The law allows for separation but of course it is not a popular thing to do as we have been seeing and hearing from the sobbing talking heads from the Lefty media.
It is a zero tolerance policy that Trump is enforcing and it is easily thwarted by the illegal aliens. If they do not want to be separated from their kids then don't enter the US illegally.
What is strange is how we never heard anything about these detention centers when Obama was President. We did hear about the surge of unaccompanied minors that were entering the country illegally. Why doesn't anyone point out that the parents of these kids were willingly giving them up to make the dangerous journey on their own? At least now the kids are well taken care of with a safe place to live, sleep, play, they have food to eat and even classrooms to learn.
The option to separate was always there and Trump is using it to prove a point but it is a mean point that the Left is using and promoting as fuel for the Anti Trump propaganda machine.
[quote=Cape Cod Todd;52251166]The law allows for separation but of course it is not a popular thing to do as we have been seeing and hearing from the sobbing talking heads from the Lefty media.
It is a zero tolerance policy that Trump is enforcing and it is easily thwarted by the illegal aliens. If they do not want to be separated from their kids then don't enter the US illegally.
What is strange is how we never heard anything about these detention centers when Obama was President. We did hear about the surge of unaccompanied minors that were entering the country illegally. Why doesn't anyone point out that the parents of these kids were willingly giving them up to make the dangerous journey on their own? At least now the kids are well taken care of with a safe place to live, sleep, play, they have food to eat and even classrooms to learn.
The option to separate was always there and Trump is using it to prove a point but it is a mean point that the Left is using and promoting as fuel for the Anti Trump propaganda machine.[/QUOTE
At least you admit it is a "mean point".
But you're also conflating the issue of unaccompanied minors with children who are NOT unaccompanied, but who are with their parents or other family members. Obviously unaccompanied minors must be accommodated while their cases are sorted out - no argument there. But they should be treated with decency and kindness.
This is a far cry from ripping little children from their parents' arms, which is what is going on at present. Trump is holding these little ones hostage to his political ambitions - a totally immoral choice. This did not occur under previous administrations, and Trump's effort to pin this on the Democrats is yet another lie.
We have a congenital liar in the White House. Trump does not know the truth and is unable to keep from lying about anything and everything. His deep personal character flaws are adversely affecting and endangering our country.
When refugees from Vietnam came here following the fall of Saigon, they were housed at Fort Chaffee, Arkansas (just outside of Fort Smith), along with similar sites. Army barracks are not ideal for families, of course, but families were kept together.
Families were even kept together, again in barracks, in the shameful Japanese internment camps of WWII - a then-young relative of mine taught in a high school which was quickly opened in just such a camp. Many good people tried to normalize life as much as possible for the families who were forced to live in very abnormal circumstances...but no Japanese-American child was taken from his or her parents.
The last time large numbers of unendangered children were forcibly taken from their families in this country as a matter of national policy would be when American Indian children were sent to boarding schools, regardless of their families' wishes.
The worst example would be when children were sold away from their families during slavery. It took a Civil War to end that barbarism.
In more recent times, FLDS children were removed from their parents and sent to existing children's shelters as a matter of safety about ten years ago given (what proved to be true) allegations of widespread child sexual abuse in the cult, but their plight received widespread coverage - the secrecy pervading the current situation is unparalleled. The FLDS parents knew their children's locations and were allowed to visit them under supervision, unlike today's situation.
One Guatemalan mother was questioned about her reasons for fleeing her country with her small child - she said that she and her little son had been threatened with death if they stayed, and while she knew her chances of legal admission to the United States were 50%, that was still far better than the 100% chance of death if she and her child remained in their home. Hard to argue with those stats. - which of us would not make the same decision to try to save the life of a beloved child??
She came here seeking asylum. She went to the correct entry point, filled out the forms, waited, id everything right - yet her child was taken from her.
What will it take to stop this atrocity? Stating that Trump is enforcing "the law" is disingenuous - laws exist for people, and this interpretation of "the law" is highly questionable. Slavery, Japanese-American internment camps, the Cherokee Removal, and forced attendance at Indian boarding schools once were all "the law", too. So was forbidding people of color, women, and non-landholders the vote.
"The law" is not sacred.
Trump's efforts to blame the Democrats for his own choices is despicable and the cowardly behavior of a bully.
I will dance in the streets when Donald Trump is no longer President and our country returns to its compassionate, free, best self.
Children under 12 should not be separated from the parents. We should fingerprint all of them, take a picture, open a file on them and return them back unless they legitimately have a case for asylum for fear for their lives. They come back then all bets are off. You have to somehow send a powerful message that this will not be tolerated. You get only one strike.
My take it, the illegals know that, they know they are breaking the law and if they come here, some BS group will advocate for them with a mushy story to get them to stay. They know that Americans for fear of being called racists will let them in, so they play on it (in many cases).
If they are from Mexico for example, relocate them to a safer place in Mexico and tell the Mexican govt to get their act together.
Children under 12 should not be separated from the parents. We should fingerprint all of them, take a picture, open a file on them and return them back unless they legitimately have a case for asylum for fear for their lives. They come back then all bets are off. You have to somehow send a powerful message that this will not be tolerated. You get only one strike.
My take it, the illegals know that, they know they are breaking the law and if they come here, some BS group will advocate for them with a mushy story to get them to stay. They know that Americans for fear of being called racists will let them in, so they play on it (in many cases).
If they are from Mexico for example, relocate them to a safer place in Mexico and tell the Mexican govt to get their act together.
They're not. Only children UNACCOMPANIED are housed separate from adults. Parents with their own children are not separated.
Why are you insisting that these kids be kept with the human traffickers that brought them here?
This clears up this stuff about Obama separating families just like Trump is now doing.
Yes he did. The ninth circuit court of appeals back in 2016, ordered the Obama administration to stop detaining children for longer than 20 days. Those children were a combination of unaccompanied minors and children separated from their families at the border. And I guess you wouldnt bother to listen to a statement by Obamas head of immigration that they deported children separate from their parents and they probably never found each other.
Oh but I forgot,obama isnt Trump so how could he do anything wrong! Even though Obama is known as the Chief Deporter among Presidents.
Obama let people break the law? I'm shocked, shocked! Just wait until the next IG Report comes out and find out what he did to protect elites and the permanent political class while creating, with crooked FBI officials, the phony Trump Russia collusion.
This is an easy win for Trump. All he has to say is this law was on the books for many years and Bush and Obama ignored it. Why make a law and ignore it? Now he put a temporary fix, which can easily be reversed by a new president later, so he wants Congress to come up with a better, permanent solution to close the loopholes in the original bad law.
Now he needs to cut all foreign aid to those countries. The money never gets to the people, just to the corrupt officials. The Dems coordinate with the dictators to flood our country with illegals.
Obama didn't stop ISIS, didn't give us a tax cut, didn't cut business regulations, didn't let money hidden in offshore accounts return here to be invested, didn't make it better for corporations to bring their jobs back here, didn't create a quickly exploding economy, didn't lower black and Latino unemployment to historic lows, didn't stop Kim Jong Un from building nukes, didn't give us affordable health care, didn't appoint politically neutral IRS, FBI and DoJ officials to run those departments.
Thank god we have Trump to turn all of that around!
I was just about to post that. Let's all go to articles and forums and post the info to inform the Loonies.
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