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Old 08-01-2018, 01:06 PM
 
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How do you feel about the democratic socialist position on dealing with illegal immigration?


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The problem with our economy is not immigration; the problem is our broken immigration laws that allow business to exploit workers who lack legal status, driving down wages for all workers. If all immigrants were allowed to participate in our system, pay their dues, and become citizens, we could block the corporations’ exploitation and eliminate the two-tiered workforce while building a united labor movement that raises wages and living standards for all workers.

https://www.dsausa.org/socialists_and_immigration_dl
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Old 08-01-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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If all immigrants who reach American soil automatically become citizens, then there are no longer ANY citizens.

Open Borders.
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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So the corporations are to blame now?

Socialism versus capitalism. As far as I am concerned, my now former party has hit new lows. What happened to a centrist (i.e., reasonable) position? This Medicare-for-all (including illegals) and free college tuition for everyone with a pulse absolutely undercuts everything those of us who have worked hard for: employer-paid health insurance (and Medicare for 65+) and achieving scholastic success in order to qualify for scholarships and/or entrance into the university of our choice.

What the left does not consider is how this will be paid for, since free health insurance would rack up $10 trillion in ten years (and that's on the low end and does not factor in our burgeoning population). In a utopian world, I guess "free" is what we all want, but in reality, cannot be achieved without harming our country even more and digging us deeper into debt.

Somewhere personal responsibility needs to kick in because no one owes us anything, although more and more illegals expect (and get) benefits to which they are not entitled in a reasonable world.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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This cat was formerly part of the Movement Known As The Sanderistas, then a Green & now supposedly a Democratic Socialist.

He claims not all chapters have the same positions on immigration & other issues.

Not endorsing nor dismissing, one can make up their own mind.

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Jul. 06, 2018 - 9:44 - Has Democratic socialism ever worked? DSA honorary chair Cornel West weighs in on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.' #Tucker
Fox News: Tucker takes on Cornel West over Democratic socialism
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Sweden has learned that you can have a welfare state or open immigration, but not both.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/o...nightmare.html


Of course Sweden is not socialist, but they do have a big welfare state, which is part and parcel American democratic socialists' platform.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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They are right "the problem with our economy is not immigration..." It is ILLEGAL immigration.

Legal immigrants have been the bedrock on which this country is built and they continue to bring diversity and the American can do spirit to their adopted country. My wife is one of them, she loves her native land and we go back often to visit but she loves America more.



When the first act of an ILLEGAL immigrant is to violate our most basic laws then what is going to stop them from breaking more out of desperation as they continue to trespass?



The Democrat Socialist answer is to let them all in and as long as they have a dream to vote for Democrats they will figure out the rest later.
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Old 10-18-2018, 06:39 PM
 
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Can't believe I missed this one, but again there is a wide spectrum of views & opinions.




MSNBC Youtube: Donald Trump Supporter Warns Of 'Taco Trucks On Every Corner' | All In | MSNBC
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: In my skin
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Somewhere personal responsibility needs to kick in because no one owes us anything, although more and more illegals expect (and get) benefits to which they are not entitled in a reasonable world.
What benefits are these?
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:24 AM
 
Location: In my skin
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Can't believe I missed this one, but again there is a wide spectrum of views & opinions.




MSNBC Youtube: Donald Trump Supporter Warns Of 'Taco Trucks On Every Corner' | All In | MSNBC
Oh the horror lol.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:25 AM
 
Location: In my skin
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The Democrat Socialist answer is to let them all in and as long as they have a dream to vote for Democrats they will figure out the rest later.
That's a lie. If you have to lie to defend your position, you probably don't have one worth a fig.
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