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View Poll Results: Do you support or oppose Illegal Immigrant rights?
No. Illegal is illegal period! 181 81.53%
Yes. They are human too. 37 16.67%
No opinion. 4 1.80%
Voters: 222. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-09-2008, 11:47 PM
 
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Hawaii repealed the law in February. Maine has it provisional to those with green cards. New Mexico only allows it for those with green cards, and the issue will be on their ballot in November for repeal, Utah's failed for renewal in 2008, and Washington only allows it for those who can pass a driving test in English and have a green card. There is no state that allows it for ALL aliens.

And by the way, California voted to ban drivers licenses from these states considering them to be invalid because of who they issue them to. Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming, Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Massachusettes, Michigan, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Minnesota are all also considering those who have drivers licenses from those states above get provisional ones from the states listed before they can drive on their roads proving their legal citizens because they dont recognize the states' licenses who are allowed for illegals. Montana, Wisconsin, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Tennessee, Maryland, Oregon, and Rhode Island are considering similar laws.

And it wont be long before there is a national drivers license to put this dumb idea to rest. Illegals should not be on the roads.
Wow...seems you're really obessed with this subject. Scary. Do you have any latino friends and do they know of your obession with this?Point of this thread is Illegals do have rights. Period.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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All of our ancestors to this country came in illegally from the native americans point of view and then proceeded to destriy them with sickness and by killing. Those that survived were driven continuously across the land until finally they were put on the most undesirable places in the country which are the current reservations. And people now are whining that illegals from south of the border are coming in and taking over, funny if you ask me!
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:16 AM
 
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All of our ancestors to this country came in illegally from the native americans point of view and then proceeded to destriy them with sickness and by killing. Those that survived were driven continuously across the land until finally they were put on the most undesirable places in the country which are the current reservations. And people now are whining that illegals from south of the border are coming in and taking over, funny if you ask me!
Are you suggesting that all countries have no borders? That no nation on Earth should have sovereignity? That there be no nationalities and people can come and go to different countries at will to live, work, or be on that countries welfare....whichever they choose?
Or do you just want that for the US?
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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You can get licenses in some states. False SSN is part of being here illegal - double dinging them huh? When you talk crimes, you imply crimes such as murder, rape, robbery, etc. --
And; what is so bad about enforcing the law against illegals? I have zero heartburn with your putative 'double dinging' of the above
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Wow...seems you're really obessed with this subject. Scary. Do you have any latino friends and do they know of your obession with this?Point of this thread is Illegals do have rights. Period.
Illegal immigrants have the same rights as any other group of lawbreakers.

Case closed.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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All of our ancestors to this country came in illegally from the native americans point of view and then proceeded to destriy them with sickness and by killing. Those that survived were driven continuously across the land until finally they were put on the most undesirable places in the country which are the current reservations. And people now are whining that illegals from south of the border are coming in and taking over, funny if you ask me!
Welcome to history-------ugly and sordid some of it was.

The past cannot be changed.

Besides; the Navajo people were 'Johnny-come-latelys' as well ca 1000 AD yet I do not hear 'boo' about telling the Navajo they need to leave.

The difference is that this nation is strong enough to control our borders if we did not have Montezuma AKA Bush 43 being such a gutless coward.

Guilt trips over long ago history no longer work on me.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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Welcome to history-------ugly and sordid some of it was.

The past cannot be changed.

Besides; the Navajo people were 'Johnny-come-latelys' as well ca 1000 AD yet I do not hear 'boo' about telling the Navajo they need to leave.

The difference is that this nation is strong enough to control our borders if we did not have Montezuma AKA Bush 43 being such a gutless coward.

Guilt trips over long ago history no longer work on me.
Well those of us that want illegal rights don't care about the sob stories of illegals are lowering our quality of life, those guilt trips do not work on us.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Well those of us that want illegal rights don't care about the sob stories of illegals are lowering our quality of life, those guilt trips do not work on us.
"Illegal rights"??

What are "illegal rights" anyway?
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Do you support or oppose Illegal Immigrant rights?
No. Illegal is illegal period!
Yes. They are human too.
No opinion.
I support humane treatment for ALL human beings. However, supporting humane treatment does not preclude my opposition to illegal immigration. The poll options imply that one is exclusive of the other.

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Human rights plain and simple, to be treated like people not animals.
Would you care to provide concrete evidence to substantiate your claim that Americans are treating illegal aliens like animals? Would this ‘inhumane’ treatment include permitting illegal alien children to receive a tax-funded education -- including free breakfast/lunch? How about the ‘inhumane’ treatment of permitting illegal aliens to enter our country 9-months pregnant and receive ‘free’ medical care and classify their offspring as U.S. citizens? Let’s not forget the ‘inhumane’ treatment of providing tax-funded WIC, welfare, subsidized housing, and other benefits to those residing in this country illegally?

If anyone is treating illegal aliens inhumanely it is their own people (THEIR government, coyotes, etc). It seems they have borrowed a page from the former African slave traders who sold their own people for profit. We never hear pro-illegals castigating the ‘real’ exploiters of illegal aliens. Why?

Come on sassyone; please provide evidence of the gross inhumane treatment illegals are receiving from the mean-spirited citizens of this country.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Would you care to provide concrete evidence to substantiate your claim that Americans are treating illegal aliens like animals?
I have asked the poster in question - on the boards, and through DM's, why she refuses to answer certain questions - like the one you raised. She has, essentially indicated that she sees no need to -

The fact is, those taken into custody (illegals) ARE treated with respect - their medical needs are met. They are clothed - housed - fed. They are kept in clean and sanitary enviornments. Their transportation is also clean and safe.
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