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Didn't Jesus also have some pretty strong opinions about "those who would lead children astray"?.....about divorce? about adultery? about children honoring their parents, and people coveting their neighbors' wives, and about taking His name in vain? Pornography? "Living together"?
Are we SURE we want to get Jesus involved in the illegal immigration mess? I mean, SURE, he'd be mad at those who 'mistreat the poor', no doubt about THAT....but just who ARE they? Average Americans? Rich Mexicans? The EMPLOYERS of illegals? Lying, duplicitous, insincere politicians? The KKK? MEChA? Drug smugglers? Border Patrol agents? Coyotes? Identity thieves?Just who WOULD Jesus 'bawl out' first?
Maybe before we call Jesus in to 'moderate' this situation, we should be VERY sure we're going to want to hear what he says....he MIGHT be mad at a few people we'd never have thought of, on our own.
Why don't we just follow another dictum "Redde Caesari quae sunt Caesaris" and leave Him out of this.
The illegal immigration mess was created by Americans, American corporations, and Mexican politicians. We ought to sort it out ourselves.
Few things are more infuriating than pro-illegals injecting God (WWJD) into the immigration debate in an attempt to support their stance. I have seen this happen countless times, and it is despicable. Be advised, God is not one to play with. He knows your motives, and does not appreciate being exploited.
In my line of work, I speak to immigrants a good portion of the day. Most of them try extremely hard to speak American. (By the way, we speak American- NOT ENGLISH!!!!)
As long as they are here legally, paying taxes and being productive, speak whatever get's you by!!!
Go to any Bible supply house/store and you will find all kinds of Bibles in different languages. Also will be a ton of Concordances and Translations/Interruptations of chapters/verses of the Bible by individuals who profess astounding knowledge of the BIBLE. These are Individual interpretations and should not be considered as GOSPEL. Some have written a complete novel on only one chapter, thus their thinking should be taken with a grain of salt. How can one person define what was supposed to have happened centurys and centurys ago. Sorry, this was not a Religeous Forum but some tried to CONVERT it as such. Jesus from Biblical times vs Jesus from Mexico. Stefhen
In my line of work, I speak to immigrants a good portion of the day. Most of them try extremely hard to speak American. (By the way, we speak American- NOT ENGLISH!!!!)
As long as they are here legally, paying taxes and being productive, speak whatever get's you by!!!
'American' is a closely related dialect to British English------otherwise I agree with your post.
And; Canadian English uses the British spellings but the US pronunciations
Why don't we just follow another dictum "Redde Caesari quae sunt Caesaris" and leave Him out of this.
The illegal immigration mess was created by Americans, American corporations, and Mexican politicians. We ought to sort it out ourselves.
Your forgetting the people that came here illegaly. They need to take responsibility for their actions.
If a thief breaks into your house, he should be charged no matter what. Even if the homeowner left their door unlocked by accident, the thief should still be charged because he committed a crime. It does not matter what the government is doing, these people still should be accountable for their own actions and we shouldnt blame their irresponsibility on our government.
I think the government has been an enabler to illegal immigrants. Going back to my analogy, its like putting a sign in your lawn that says "thousands of dollars in gold and jewels inside" and then you leave your door open for robbers, you need to take accountability at that point because you invited trouble.
But to say that the illegal aliens have no blame in this is silly, because even though we have left the door wide open and given them all the "gold" they want, they need to take personal responsibility (as do we).
'American' is a closely related dialect to British English------otherwise I agree with your post.
And; Canadian English uses the British spellings but the US pronunciations
I agree, languages are bound to transform. We have been separated from England for over 300 years, so our language would have differences as a natural progression.
I agree, languages are bound to transform. We have been separated from England for over 300 years, so our language would have differences as a natural progression.
Although in recent years; both branches of our language, English, have been converging again due to electronic 'real time' media.
Lev 19:33-34
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And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
So the contrast here is between the rules that apply to 1) the stranger passing through, versus the rules that apply to 2) the stranger who was dwelling with the Israelites.
The point of the passage was INTEGRATION into the Israelite community by the stranger.
The passage is saying not to apply the same criteria to the one who is merely stopping in versus the stranger who is to be considered a part of the community.
Now here is the point that matters: in order for the stranger to be considered part of Israel, the attitude of the Israelites was that they were required to "love him as thyself"...which is a high standard.
What did that "Stranger" have to do in order to be considered PART OF ISRAEL FIRST?
The answer is that the stranger had to:
1) Become an Israelite
2) Agree to be Bound by ALL the laws of Israel
3) Agree to follow ALL of the rules of Israel
4) Agree to the SAME penalty as those who were part of Israel.
That may sound casual to those who read this today, but there are two very important points:
1) Part of the Israel Law had "Death by Stoning" for many offenses, so joining the tribes who will stone you to death for breaking the rules has serious consequences.
2) The other part - is that in order to join Israel, he had to be circumcised.
So, instead of the responsibility being on Israel to treat that PERMANENT stranger as part of the tribe, YES - that is what they had to do,
But ONLY AFTER that stranger had agreed to abide by ALL OF THE LAWS OF ISRAEL, with death following shortly for many infractions.
Define "passing through". Were the Israelites who lived in Egypt "passing through"? And just for how long were they in Egypt?
An alien is an alien. If you shed your beliefs, religion, etc and "integrate", then you are no longer an alien. And if you're no longer an alien, how can the passage (s) apply to an "integrated" person?
If the Israelites in Egypt did not give up their God, and hence, their law (the Torah), why should they expect other aliens to do something they did not do themselves? That doesn't make sense.
You're also forgetting about the 7 moral imperatives, aka the Noahide laws, which non-Jews can follow to be considered "Righteous Gentiles". Righteous Gentiles do not have to follow all of the Jewish mitzvot.
Perhaps a consultation with a Rabbi is in order. I don't know why, but I've always been uncomfortable with Christians "interpreting" the Old Testament. Then again, five Rabbis can give 5 different answers and in the end, it'll all be "kosher".
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