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Old 02-25-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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Maybe there are people who would contribute to help?
How about asking Steve bannon for help. This may be a way for him to make good on the promise. Can’t hurt to ask.
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Old 02-25-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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Well, since walls dont work, tear them all down

Love, all of our "No border Democrats", they think everyone should just walz into the US and get citizenship. "No border, no country"
These anti-wall people crack me up. No one has successfully gotten over the new walls in 10 minutes and in fact no one has gotten over them, period! They fool no one they have a vested interest in illegal immigration and know that walls are a huge deterrant but they can't have the flow of their illegal amigos impeded, can they? I have even posted a link from Homeland Security that good walls have deterred illegal entry by 90% and yet they still remain in denial and makes stupid claims that they don't back up.

If walls don't work then why do we have them around our homes and businesses? I guess that wall around the Capital building is useless to? No one is claiming that walls deter unwanted entry by 100% but 90% isn't good enough?
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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You don't know WTH you are talking about! The finished wall was to be for only 1,000 miles on the border not the entire border! Where have you been? The rest of the border is nearly impassable terrain so fewer will try and enter in those areas and fewer will succeed. The Border Patrol can focus their efforts in those areas.

Of course it will never be finished with the Democrats in control. No, people cannot walk around the wall why are being silly now? Seems like you have a vested interest in illegal immigration. You fool no one!

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
Okay, if Trump could get reelected again, and build just as much wall as he has already built, your 50% wall would still not be complete. Also you people are completely delusional if you believe that even one single person who has already traveled hundreds, maybe thousands of miles to get to the border, is going to be deterred from crossing the border, because you add a couple hundred more miles to their journey.

But that's not really surprising, because Republicans don't really want to stop people from crossing the border. Republican business owners love that cheap illegal labor. The wall is just symbolic. The next Republican Wall will be 100 feet high, and still have just as many gaps for people to walk through.
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Old 02-26-2021, 04:18 PM
 
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Okay, if Trump could get reelected again, and build just as much wall as he has already built, your 50% wall would still not be complete. Also you people are completely delusional if you believe that even one single person who has already traveled hundreds, maybe thousands of miles to get to the border, is going to be deterred from crossing the border, because you add a couple hundred more miles to their journey.

But that's not really surprising, because Republicans don't really want to stop people from crossing the border. Republican business owners love that cheap illegal labor. The wall is just symbolic. The next Republican Wall will be 100 feet high, and still have just as many gaps for people to walk through.
What part of the wall is only to be 1,000 miles long aren't you getting? There is no plan to build the wall along the entire 2,000 mile border. It isn't needed as 1,000 miles is nearly impassable terrain and fewer will try to cross there and fewer will succeed. The Border Patrol can focus their efforts there.

It doesn't matter how far someone has traveled if they meet up with a wall that is 90% effective in deterring them and areas that are impassable terrain the likelyhood of them them getting into our country is very slim. What part of that aren't you getting either?

I could travel 3,000 miles with a determination to break into a certain bank vault but that doesn't mean I would succeed!

So you don't think that the Democrats like cheap labor to? Gimme a break! The wall is not symbolic it's real and effective. Just where are these gaps that you claim people can walk through? No wall builder would be foolish enough to leave gaps in a wall with the finished product so WTH are you talking about?

At least under Trump there was an effort to curb illegal immigration and the GOP has tried to pass an e-verify bill for years but the Democrats won't pass one yet it's the Republicans that want the cheap labor???? Obama discontinued the workplace raids while Trump reinstated them. Try using some common sense here.
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Old 02-27-2021, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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What part of the wall is only to be 1,000 miles long aren't you getting? There is no plan to build the wall along the entire 2,000 mile border. It isn't needed as 1,000 miles is nearly impassable terrain and fewer will try to cross there and fewer will succeed. The Border Patrol can focus their efforts there.

It doesn't matter how far someone has traveled if they meet up with a wall that is 90% effective in deterring them and areas that are impassable terrain the likelyhood of them them getting into our country is very slim. What part of that aren't you getting either?

I could travel 3,000 miles with a determination to break into a certain bank vault but that doesn't mean I would succeed!

So you don't think that the Democrats like cheap labor to? Gimme a break! The wall is not symbolic it's real and effective. Just where are these gaps that you claim people can walk through? No wall builder would be foolish enough to leave gaps in a wall with the finished product so WTH are you talking about?

At least under Trump there was an effort to curb illegal immigration and the GOP has tried to pass an e-verify bill for years but the Democrats won't pass one yet it's the Republicans that want the cheap labor???? Obama discontinued the workplace raids while Trump reinstated them. Try using some common sense here.
Reading comprehension. Try it. I understand perfectly well.

What part of "You are delusional if you believe that even one single person who has already traveled hundreds, maybe thousands of miles to get to the border, is going to be deterred from crossing the border, because you add a couple hundred more miles to their journey" did you not understand?

That's the equivalent of a rancher, deciding that putting barbed wire around 50% of his ranch is good enough.
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Old 02-27-2021, 11:37 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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No it forces illegals to bottleneck to other places. Few places they can enter means few places that need to be patrolled. It really is common sense.
One thing people usually neglect to point out is once they go over the wall it is much harder to turn back. This makes people violating the border much easier to catch. It also makes it hard to bring heavy items in. That 2,000 pounds of cocaine takes effort to bring over a wall.

The people most likely to climb the wall are more likely to be up to no good. In this way it is good so you can more aggressively pursue them. As I said earlier it is harder to retreat. It keeps the bad guys from crossing with 3 year old kids and pregnant women.

It potentially could also help Mexican authorities by making it easier for them to contain all of the firearms being brought from the USA into Mexzico. Of course they don’t check but if they wanted to start guns and bullets are heavy.

Now some people will say that most of that will be found at the legal ports of entry. That would be great. Because a lot of what isn’t found goes through the open. One day hopefully almost 99% would be captured at legal entries as traffic is funneled intentionally through them to do it.

The fact is the wall was already working. We didn’t get too much news from that area until Biden put up the welcome mats.
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:30 PM
 
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Reading comprehension. Try it. I understand perfectly well.

What part of "You are delusional if you believe that even one single person who has already traveled hundreds, maybe thousands of miles to get to the border, is going to be deterred from crossing the border, because you add a couple hundred more miles to their journey" did you not understand?

That's the equivalent of a rancher, deciding that putting barbed wire around 50% of his ranch is good enough.
Then why have the good walls been 90% effective in deterring illegal entry in those areas? Do you just like to ignore facts? Seems you are the delusional one. If the 1,000 miles had been completed only 10% of illegals would have made it across the border but that's not good enough? Actually, you seem to be a pro-illegal alien and that's why you are anti-wall and pretend that walls don't work. Sorry but the facts prove otherwise. As I said, half the border is nearly impassable so just where do you think they are going to succeed in crossing? Some might but most won't.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Promised a wall, given a gap: Border rancher fears Biden order will funnel migrants through his land


What you get for electing liberals and placing them in charge of normal people.
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